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Would you still pay to play?
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sweetrock
#1 - 2012-06-03 08:52:28 UTC  |  Edited by: sweetrock
In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?

Could you find it in your heart to pay £9.99 no wait sorry 14.99e no wait i swear that e-mail said £9.99 who knows, ccp arnt sure....... Would you still play if you had to pay?
Krota Hetei
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-06-03 08:53:56 UTC
The people buying Plex to sell, obviously think it's worth paying to pay play. Since they are paying twice over.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-06-03 09:04:32 UTC
I've never used a PLEX to pay for subscription.

I usually pay for 1 year subscription with a Credit Card, it's the best deal of all and I don't have to worry about my subscription each month.



DMC

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Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-06-03 09:06:22 UTC
Absolutely. For its laundry list of faults, it's the most unique game going right now.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#5 - 2012-06-03 09:10:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.

Also, EVE is the only MMO I can play without cursing the developers and burning out after a few weeks. It is not nearly as demanding of your time, and is completely free-form. I won't be playing another MMO, likely ever.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-03 09:16:18 UTC
I haven't had to pay a subscription or get PLEX off the market for a while

space communism owns let me tell you

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
sweetrock
#7 - 2012-06-03 10:46:20 UTC
Abandoning thread. Mission failed -20 cool points Sad
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#8 - 2012-06-03 12:27:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Ituhata Saken
I paid 15$ a month to play WoW for nearly 7 months just to log in, stand around in Orgrimmar, and eventually log off because I was tired of doing anything remotely productive in-game. It was really hard to let go of since I had put so much time and effort into my character but I finally had to admit that I was no longer having fun. I'm not rich or anything, to me 15$ is such a small portion of my monthly income that it's a non-issue, but there's no sense in giving away 15$ for a product that's no longer useful to you.

That being said, I made up my mind about EvE last time around that on principle alone I will not spend more than a monthly subscription to play, if I can't make this game enjoyable without resorting to the plex/iwin/free isk button then I don't need ot be playing.

So close...
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-06-03 12:31:35 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.



Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.

brb
Josef Djugashvilis
#10 - 2012-06-03 12:35:42 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I've never used a PLEX to pay for subscription.

I usually pay for 1 year subscription with a Credit Card, it's the best deal of all and I don't have to worry about my subscription each month.



DMC


Same here.

Then what I earn in Eve I can afford to lose in Eve.

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George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-06-03 12:48:17 UTC
sweetrock wrote:
In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?


I probably will. Considering I have played this game since 2010 now, and never paid for my game time with PLEX so far... Roll

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread
George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-06-03 12:50:37 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.



Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.


Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through.

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread
Shukuzen Kiraa
F4G Wild Weasel
#13 - 2012-06-03 12:58:40 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Absolutely. For its laundry list of faults, it's the most unique game going right now.


This
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-06-03 13:02:00 UTC
Probably won't, but not because of me not going to pay for the subs, most likely will be because my friends who use PLEXes would stop playing.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Rajan Marelona
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-06-03 13:16:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Rajan Marelona
George Whitebread wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.

Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.

Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through.

You understood it backwards. Akirei Scytale said "LESS" not "more".
If it takes less time to make 500m ISK compared to making 15$, assuming that you make at most 200m ISK per hour but probably much less, that means you make at most 7$ per hour but probably a lot less.
Kill Rockstar
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-06-03 13:19:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kill Rockstar
33p a day is a lot of money. Straight
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-06-03 13:25:57 UTC
Rajan Marelona wrote:
George Whitebread wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.

Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.

Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through.

You understood it backwards. Akirei Scytale said "LESS" not "more".
If it takes less time to make 500m ISK compared to making 15$, assuming that you make at most 200m ISK per hour but probably much less, that means you make at most 7$ per hour but probably a lot less.



If you can make 500M/h but not $15/h there's still a problem.

However with a single char make 500M/h is impossible, the ratio isk/h is quite limited, however a very few dudes can but those are really exceptions and I don't believe they can do this ratio every time they log unless trading.

brb
Rajan Marelona
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-06-03 13:26:32 UTC
If you make 1$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 25 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
If you make 7$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 180 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
If you make 15$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 385 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
If you make 30$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 770 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#19 - 2012-06-03 13:27:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
George Whitebread wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.



Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.


Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through.


In my country people earn average 300-350 euro per month and they work minium 10hours per day but the prices are same like in rich countrys... also manuals workers, confectioner, baker etc got realy low payment while i compare payment to most rich countrys in EU 1200-1400euro per month, form this money they need pay for all kind of rent every month + food and all is expensive, however in my country is big payment dispresion, some people earn even 500-600euro, but in most cases ordinary people cant easy aford monthy onlines games payment, if you got like 350 euro per month and after paying all rent you need thinking how to survive next month...

Back to OP, even i living in poor country driung my game period i spent xxx euro so far to buy GTC Form CCP, i would pay always real money if i can aford this, but to be honest i cant aford this every month by this way so if possible i use plexes.

Answer to OP, if ccp remove plexes i will try to pay real money so long as i can aford it.

Ps. Sorry for my grammar.
Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#20 - 2012-06-03 13:30:54 UTC
Rajan Marelona wrote:
If you make 1$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 25 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
If you make 7$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 180 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
If you make 15$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 385 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.
If you make 30$/hour working in RL, you should pay cash if you make under 770 mil ISK/hour, buy PLEX with ISK if you make more.


I like your idea, payment depend idividual countrys economy conditions, but life is brutal, no marer where you living and how much you earn you always pay same amount of money like other.
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