Skill Discussions

There is a lot of controversy about this character (Password = 123) on the Character Bazaar; he has trained a large number of the intelligence & memory skills to level 5.

My question is which of these are a waste (at level 5) and what would it be better to train instead?

Thanks

Not commenting on the character nor on the proposed price or sale.

Out of these skills, I'ld say only TSM V should never be trained (due to the possible negative effect of having it to V in stead of IV - iirc. at best there shouldn't be any positive difference between IV and V, making the skillpoints in training it to V useless at best, and counterproductive at worst).

Multitasking V, Shield comps V and Electronic Warfare V might be useful for some very specialised characters, though they'll always be highly situational. Not likely to be worth it.

The reduced penalties from [type] rigging V might just give you enough grid or CPU to actually make the fit, so could in some cases be considered worth training.

shield comps 5 definitely not. Passive shield resist modules are generally just not used by anyone. Could skip those skills entirely, IMO. Including them on the character sheet is just asking for a failfit.

Jurry Rigging 5 - don't think that one have any use at 5 what so ever. the rest of the rigging skills have some effect.

It's required for building T3 subsystems. It's useless for actually fitting or flying ships though.

To expand upon this, there are no drawbacks on rigs that only require the Rigging skill, and the T2 variants of those rigs only require Rigging 4.

However, it is worthwhile training the other rigging skills. For example, every weapon system has a rig with fitting drawbacks, which can quickly add up when you fit two or three of them.

I have all rigs at level 4, except Launcher Rigging 5 as I had an unusual fit that didn't work any other way (all other fitting skills at 5). I wouldn't train rigging skills to 5 unless you have a fit that requires it.

That's so true....and 18b isn't that much.

It can be useful too.

Your ganking cloaky Proteus that you uncloak next to a victim inside a wormhole. Cloaking V makes it easier for you to get a lock on time.

Also in tackling Arazus, for instance. Uncloak, wait for the penalty period to pass, instalock and point.

Cloaking V in that situation would be just as having another free targetting rig.

Still, there's a ton of things I'd do before Cloaking V. Even if I like the Proteus and the Arazu quite a lot.

Disagree - 1 to 2 seconds is a long time when you're spamming the target button, waiting for your targeting delay to pass. Every second counts in PVP, and if you fly cloaky PVP ships it is worth taking to v eventually.

Only ones I would consider a waste at that SP level (negating the fact you've first trained support skills before any spaceship command/weapons) is shield compensations 5, tactical shield manipulation 5, cloaking 5 over any racial specific e-war 5 which would give a better boost imo, afterburner 5 (if you're training to sell leave it at 4 since that is considered better for dual prop setups)
Electronic warfare 5 is strange since it's a race specific e-war skill, unless you planned to have it trained as pre-req for a supercap skill.
Jury rigging 5 over 4 is odd ad I believe the only thing that it even gives a benefit to is producing t3 cruisers, if not that at least something in production, not pvp, at lvl 4 it gives max benefits for everything pvp.
Astrometric 5 without the jump drive skills is odd as the only reason you would train it would be for either titan or black ops jump portal operation.