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Sisi in a mess

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Missile War
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-10-05 04:20:51 UTC
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
CCP Konflikt wrote:
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
have to say dear CCP, the current state of sisi is a total mess. Its simply unplayable, its like you have just thrown the dev build on there. The main system 6-C (god knows why you changed from FD-) but anyway is totally buggy as hell...
Mods not working right, you cant see shield damage, lag, oh i give up. Please can we have a stable QA build


You're not far off.. but it's a test server, where we test things, not play "Eve arcade mode".

If you find a bug feel free to write a bug report :).



Typical (lets get all defensive) developer response, did you forget to do your own unit testing then? or do those software development key priniciples not apply at ccp then? no wonder tranquility is full of bugs if you cant even get the crappy test server right...

a qa test server should never be of this terrible quality ever, keep your dev/integration environments to yourselves before asking people to do functionality testing, which we cant do as the basic functions of eve dont even work...

tell me how the hell did the shield damage function stop working? how can someone test pvp wise when you cant even see what shield damage you have? is there no such thing as regression testing?
dont expect us the players to test, when you cant be bothered to test your own work first. That build should of never made its way onto sisi at all.





i just HAVE to ask,

umad? umad bro?
Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#22 - 2011-10-05 05:09:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Zendon Taredi
yes. dont even think about taking this live before reading the bug reports/forums.i think you owe it to the mass test guys to provide an environment where they can actually try out new ships.
Flamespar
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
#23 - 2011-10-05 05:13:45 UTC
Zendon Taredi wrote:
yes. dont even think about taking this live before reading the bug reports/forums.


Thank-you for your amazing advice captain obvious.
Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#24 - 2011-10-05 05:15:39 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Zendon Taredi wrote:
yes. dont even think about taking this live before reading the bug reports/forums.


Thank-you for your amazing advice captain obvious.


no problem, admiral douchebasket.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2011-10-05 05:40:11 UTC
Zendon Taredi wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Zendon Taredi wrote:
yes. dont even think about taking this live before reading the bug reports/forums.


Thank-you for your amazing advice captain obvious.


no problem, Captain Cry.


fyp

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Osarian Torentes
Alt Corp 2047
#26 - 2011-10-05 06:17:55 UTC
AFAIK the whole point of a test server is to test things and get them ironed out prior to release, it works as a system, and since I've started playing only a few major bugs seem to have gotten through, the one which springs to mind was the broken corp recruitment system, but since you don't get massive corp recruitment going on on the test server that is pretty much why it didn't get noticed.
The whole point is that we submit bug reports, the dev team look at these bugs, so even if you think its something thats been seen before, if it isn't fixed yet submit a report, your report may be the final bit of info they need to fix the problem.

TLDR: don't complain that sisi isn't perfect when they release a new build, its not meant to be, and the more bugs that are found on sisi means that when the finished build gets put on TQ its not a complete roaring-goat-****

Darth Skorpius
352 Industries
#27 - 2011-10-05 11:04:43 UTC
in another mmo i play (no not that big one) we also have a test server. one update, the live code suddenly went to hell in a handbasket even after stress testing it on the test server. my point is you could have a very stable and bug free build in one test enviroment, ie internal dev server, then when you push that code to another enviroment all manner of issues pop up. it happens with all software and probably has something to do with the difference in hardware and drivers from one enviroment to the next or something.

if you dont like it being buggy, you might want to format your hard drive, otherwise your os might get an update that causes bugs preventign you from doing anything with it
Big Bad Mofo
Doomheim
#28 - 2011-10-05 11:33:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Big Bad Mofo
my god i have never heard some much dross in my entire life..People commenting on something they clearly have no idea of..
if your happy testing something that has this build quality go ahead. I know i wont...

When you cant use your mods, when you cant see any damage, when you cant do jack cos its so laggy, plus other stuff, its not an environment you can even test in...

I think you seem to be missing a the point here, of course there are bugs, stupid. But But when the fundamentals dont work and there are severe regression issues (look it up if you dont know what it means) then this build should not of even made it onto sisi, this is a dev/integration build not a qa build (if you dont know what the difference is go look it up too). When releasing something to a QA testing build then there should be some quality at least. Yes regression issues happen, but not has bad as this. This is why TQ has some many bugs, because clearly the testing process is poor.

I cant comment anymore on this subject, as clearly i am dealing with numpties, and its too much hard work to explain the clear fundamentals of testing and quality.
Zendon Taredi
Tier Four Technologies
#29 - 2011-10-05 12:05:38 UTC
Headerman wrote:
Zendon Taredi wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Zendon Taredi wrote:
yes. dont even think about taking this live before reading the bug reports/forums.


Thank-you for your amazing advice captain obvious.


no problem, Captain Cry.


fyp


i think you mean ftfy.

no problem, captain hairdo.
Xynthiar
The Initiative.
#30 - 2011-10-05 13:24:12 UTC
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
When you cant use your mods, when you cant see any damage, when you cant do jack cos its so laggy, plus other stuff, its not an environment you can even test in...

This build isn't about testing modules or looking at your readout. And it's not laggy. What needs to be tested (new font, cyno, CQ etc) works. And endlessly insulting everyone isn't going to work to your advantage, especially when you're wrong. I sincerely hope you are in fact trolling.
Missile War
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2011-10-05 14:10:17 UTC
CCP Gangleri wrote:
This thread is outdated, these features will hopefully return to Sisi later this month.



Hi everyone, there is a new build up on Sisi. Here are some relevant blogs:

New CQ's:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2427

New font:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2401

Ship spinning:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2402


This is a very early build so bear with us, there are a few issues we already know about and are working on:

Client thinks it can’t connect to server, displays ‘Unable to connect’ message
User Pain: Extreme
Workaround: Log in anyway.

Unable to scroll down in the EULA screen - no text shown
User Pain: Extreme
Workaround: Change the languageID in prefs.ini for the Sisi client to EN. Prefs.ini can be found in the appropriate settings folder for this client, more info is available here.

Ship hangar (as opposed to captains quarters) does not load up when docking straight into it
User Pain: High
Workaround: Go to the CQ first and then to the ship hangar.

The captains quarters environments are not loading on docking into a new station
User Pain: High
Workaround: Close client and log in again, in the next session the CQ environment should load as expected, if it doesn’t see next item below.

Certain environments are failing to load resulting in a black screen
User Pain: High
Workaround: There is no clear workaround at this time, in fact we are no longer able to reproduce this issue but if any of you do please file bug reports.

The Amarr Captain Quarters walkway entrance has missing collision on the stairs causing players to fall through the world
User Pain: High
Workaround: Wear shades like a boss, and don’t walk around the Amarr CQ.

Station services are not loading up when starting client in ship spinning
User Pain: Moderate
Workaround: Undock, dock again.

Intro video doesn’t play properly
User Pain: Moderate
Workaround: Skip the video by hitting any key, audio may continue playing anyway.

The Corporation and PI screen in the Gallente CQ are non-functional
User Pain: Low
Workaround: No workaround.

Unable to leave ship in hangar view
User Pain: Low
Workaround: No workaround, note that you can switch ships you just can't be in a pod.


For reporting other issues please file a bug report as per the instructions here.



now STFU and adjust, or go away and stop wasting good people their time.
Big Bad Mofo
Doomheim
#32 - 2011-10-05 14:53:03 UTC
Xynthiar wrote:
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
When you cant use your mods, when you cant see any damage, when you cant do jack cos its so laggy, plus other stuff, its not an environment you can even test in...

This build isn't about testing modules or looking at your readout. And it's not laggy. What needs to be tested (new font, cyno, CQ etc) works. And endlessly insulting everyone isn't going to work to your advantage, especially when you're wrong. I sincerely hope you are in fact trolling.


please read by bio - idiot
Big Bad Mofo
Doomheim
#33 - 2011-10-05 14:53:19 UTC
Xynthiar wrote:
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
When you cant use your mods, when you cant see any damage, when you cant do jack cos its so laggy, plus other stuff, its not an environment you can even test in...

This build isn't about testing modules or looking at your readout. And it's not laggy. What needs to be tested (new font, cyno, CQ etc) works. And endlessly insulting everyone isn't going to work to your advantage, especially when you're wrong. I sincerely hope you are in fact trolling.


please read by bio - idiot
Missile War
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2011-10-05 15:28:17 UTC
double post for double fail?
Xynthiar
The Initiative.
#35 - 2011-10-05 16:43:31 UTC
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
Xynthiar wrote:
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
When you cant use your mods, when you cant see any damage, when you cant do jack cos its so laggy, plus other stuff, its not an environment you can even test in...

This build isn't about testing modules or looking at your readout. And it's not laggy. What needs to be tested (new font, cyno, CQ etc) works. And endlessly insulting everyone isn't going to work to your advantage, especially when you're wrong. I sincerely hope you are in fact trolling.


please read by bio - idiot


Yeah that attitude will get you far. "I'm right because screw you."
Oberine Noriepa
#36 - 2011-10-05 17:04:08 UTC
Big Bad Mofo wrote:
please read by bio - idiot

Nah, I'll just block your posts.

Blue Harrier
#37 - 2011-10-05 17:20:13 UTC
Well you can all stop stamping your feet, stroking your epeen and put your teddies back in your prams, its all gone and we are back to a standard TQ with a few fixes.

Looks like it’s a full reset including the mirror back to before the new hanger and CQ stuff was tested, happy now.

Oh and if your on a slow connection download the 292761 to 300737 patch it's only 19Mb and update a new copy of your TQ files, the launcher wanted to download nearly 700 Mb to update my copy of the SiSi client.

"You wait - time passes, Thorin sits down and starts singing about gold." from The Hobbit on ZX Spectrum 1982.

T' Elk
Quarantine Fleet
Freight Train Diplomacy
#38 - 2011-10-05 22:02:50 UTC
Big Bad Mofo wrote:


please read by bio - idiot

Your bio is complete bullshit. You are a big bad dumbass, who cannot even use correct grammar in simple sentences.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently

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