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Making high sec "safer". CCP - just come and tell them how it is!!!

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-06-02 02:56:02 UTC
Just posting to apologise on behalf of most hiseccers who aren't absolute morons. Sorry GD :(
Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-06-02 04:19:32 UTC
Har Harrison wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Where is these massive amounts of 'make high sec safer' threads you speak of? You make is sound like the first fifty pages of GD is those threads. Stop making **** up already.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116390&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116466&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115609&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115609&find=unread

Want anymore examples???

Yes. We need more examples of how important we are to you.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-06-02 04:54:17 UTC
HEART
THE
****
UP


Working as intended
Sticky to the top.

DO IT!
Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-06-02 06:16:26 UTC
Frederick Sanger wrote:
Har Harrison wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Where is these massive amounts of 'make high sec safer' threads you speak of? You make is sound like the first fifty pages of GD is those threads. Stop making **** up already.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116390&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116466&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115609&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115609&find=unread

Want anymore examples???

Yes. We need more examples of how important we are to you.

Typical goon - this has nothing to do with YOU. Its about the whining carebears. A large number of which are not whining because of the goons burning jita or sponsering hulkageddon.
Go back to your corner now...

Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#25 - 2012-06-02 06:21:41 UTC
Har Harrison wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
I don't think there should be any changes wrt to the mechanics... but Hulks/exhumers could better balanced with an improvement to their HP.

This is something I COULD support since it not changing mechanics or pandering massively

After all, even if we let them fit a bit more tank, only the smart ones would. The dumb ones wouldn't and would still die...



"i'm not saying lets kill all the stupid people, i'm saying lets remove all the warning lables and let the problem sort itself out"
:)
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#26 - 2012-06-02 06:23:47 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
[i]Pvp means shooting people now? Huh okay.

Thing is,

Mining is pvp too, cause you have to mine and sell against every other miner.
Building is pvp too, cause you have to sell you ships against every other builder.
Hauling is pvp too, cause theres more than one company doing it.

Eve is a sandbox, but pvp is not shooting someone.

As for buffing Hulks, If you fit nothing but tank on a hulk you get without bonuses 28K EHP, With a Resist link on a Orca 33K. Assuming L5 and so on.

erm if you mean things like shield harmonizing link, you cant fit warfare links to a orca now, doesn't get cpu reduction bonus.
Lexmana
#27 - 2012-06-02 06:28:55 UTC
[quote CCP permaband] We're CCP! We march on fearlessly!
Excellent is what we strive to be!

If you're going to follow us to the top

HARDEN THE **** UP!
[/quote]
Not empty quoting.
Lexmana
#28 - 2012-06-02 06:29:50 UTC
CCP permaband wrote:
We're CCP! We march on fearlessly!
Excellent is what we strive to be!

If you're going to follow us to the top

HARDEN THE **** UP!

Not empty quoting
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-06-02 06:30:55 UTC
Har Harrison wrote:
I for one am fed up with all these "make hi sec safer" threads. They are cluttering up the forums...Roll So I've started this one with ONE aim.Cool

To get CCP to put out a mission statement or similar that explains that high sec is working as intended and they will not be making it impossible to be suicide ganked, removing combat from 1.0 and 0.9 systems or any of the other "solutions" that lazy, AFK "players" (can I call them that if they don't actually sit at the computer and play??) come up with.

I read in another thread that a noob is scared of low sec. I was too when I started. Make friends and go an experience what the game has to offer!!! I made friends, got to know it and understand it better and its not so bad. I even created this char to do FW for some PvP which mostly occurs IN LOW SEC!!!

Perhaps before a user can even read the EULA and accept that, they need to have answered the following to install EvE

"By selecting install, you acknowledge that EvE is a PvP orientated game and that you are not automatically entitled to the presumption of 100% safety when undocked, just various degrees of relative safety."

Of course, CCP wouldn't like that as it will scare off their carebear customer base who have come to play their themepark game in a sandbox...Twisted




waste of space.. like most of the class warfare idiots that post. these posts are not any newer than the post he potificates over... and neither are the pack of slavering lap dogs fawning over his noobish parroting of said posts.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]

Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-06-02 06:32:41 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
[quote CCP permaband] We're CCP! We march on fearlessly!
Excellent is what we strive to be!

If you're going to follow us to the top

HARDEN THE **** UP!
Quote:

Not empty quoting.


Well goddamn, they got the lyrics right at the bottom of the video. I should have read them.
Josef Djugashvilis
#31 - 2012-06-02 06:42:38 UTC
Sentinel Smith wrote:
CCP Has made their statement.. it's the same as usual, HTFU. They really shouldn't have to post it in every single thread that gets started..


Yet another 'pixel hardman'

This is not a signature.

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-06-02 07:43:04 UTC
Har Harrison wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Where is these massive amounts of 'make high sec safer' threads you speak of? You make is sound like the first fifty pages of GD is those threads. Stop making **** up already.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116390&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116466&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115609&find=unread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115609&find=unread

Want anymore examples???


Sure. You listed four, two of which are by the same person. Four. Show me one hundred that are by completely different people (sorry, npc alts don't count) and then, maybe you might have touched ever so much a fraction of one percent of the player base enough to cause them to QQ on the forums.

Sorry, but not really. I am not impressed at all. You all claim that all of high sec is raging on the forums how high sec should be 100% safe, but I would maybe see one or two threads at most a day of someone mentioning something close to that. You all exaggerate an absolute **** ton to the point of dare I say, lying?

The current player base is at least 300,000 subscribers. Four, oh I'm sorry, er three people you listed is hardly even a drop in the bucket. You want people to pay attention to you then perhaps you need to try harder. Expand beyond the Hulks maybe. I think you will find that most high sec players who PVE are in fact running missions. Don't you want them to pay attention to you as well?
Har Harrison
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-06-02 08:39:11 UTC
Blastcaps Madullier wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Pvp means shooting people now? Huh okay.

Thing is,

Mining is pvp too, cause you have to mine and sell against every other miner.
Building is pvp too, cause you have to sell you ships against every other builder.
Hauling is pvp too, cause theres more than one company doing it.

Eve is a sandbox, but pvp is not shooting someone.

As for buffing Hulks, If you fit nothing but tank on a hulk you get without bonuses 28K EHP, With a Resist link on a Orca 33K. Assuming L5 and so on.

erm if you mean things like shield harmonizing link, you cant fit warfare links to a orca now, doesn't get cpu reduction bonus.

Umm, wrong...

Orca description...

Role Bonus:
250% bonus to tractor beam range
100% bonus to tractor beam velocity
500% bonus to survey scanner range
[i]99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules
Can use 3 warfare link modules simultaneously.


Industrial Command Ship Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to cargo capacity per level
3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman warfare links per level

Potrondal Morrison
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-06-02 08:53:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Potrondal Morrison
Har Harrison wrote:
I for one am fed up with all these "make hi sec safer" threads. They are cluttering up the forums...Roll So I've started this one with ONE aim.Cool

To get CCP to put out a mission statement or similar that explains that high sec is working as intended and they will not be making it impossible to be suicide ganked, removing combat from 1.0 and 0.9 systems or any of the other "solutions" that lazy, AFK "players" (can I call them that if they don't actually sit at the computer and play??) come up with.

I read in another thread that a noob is scared of low sec. I was too when I started. Make friends and go an experience what the game has to offer!!! I made friends, got to know it and understand it better and its not so bad. I even created this char to do FW for some PvP which mostly occurs IN LOW SEC!!!

Perhaps before a user can even read the EULA and accept that, they need to have answered the following to install EvE

"By selecting install, you acknowledge that EvE is a PvP orientated game and that you are not automatically entitled to the presumption of 100% safety when undocked, just various degrees of relative safety."

Of course, CCP wouldn't like that as it will scare off their carebear customer base who have come to play their themepark game in a sandbox...Twisted



Hell, entering low sec and null sec makes me very edgy, to the point of fear, fear of losing my ships, modules, isk, etc. But for me thats the FUN in going into low and null sec. Now for high sec, i dont feel to wary about traveling about although i know that i can get ganked at any time and that im not safe anywhere. That is the sole reason i play the game, i dont want to be safe...ever....anywhere, whats the point in playing in total safety? These bloody people come on this game, like it but want to change it into something it is not and something that THEY want it to be, so they moan and complain and try to get CCP to change things for their own selfish reasons. If people cant accept the game they are playing then they should consider going to a safer game that they have no chance of dying, getting ganked etc.
Eve was never ment to be a safe environment for anyone, doesn`t `EvE` stand for Everyone Vs Everyone? If people cant grasp this then i say they are in the wrong game.
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#35 - 2012-06-02 10:08:58 UTC
It's called High Security, not Safe Zone
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#36 - 2012-06-02 10:14:31 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
It's called High Security, not Safe Zone


Shhhh....

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-06-02 11:31:12 UTC
2009 wants it's thread back!

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

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