EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

Look, another Hydra/Outbreak groupie tears thread!

*popcorn*

you all are just embarrassing yourselfs, if it was a main or alt of Hydra/Outbreak doing this, I would give it a discount, but tears coming from groupies, now that is just so adorable and pathetic at the same time. Please give us more, I'm having fun and you?

This is getting so pathetic.

stop stealing my posts

"Getting"?

And OP, unnecessary edit, your thread was spot on. Quoting it just for posterity



(Well ok I disagree on the bit where you wanted them to just ban us right away)

Yes.

See all these comments from players of different alliances. They are all Hydra/OB alts.

There are actually ~10 Hydra/OB alt alliances in the tourney, hellbent on throwing not just the final match, but the entire final day. This would not have happened if you could have effectively communicated with your players, and not played favorites.

Out of the frying pan and into the flame, CCP. You heard it here first.

Nobody seems to understand that Hydra wasn't removed because of the B team rule. The B team rule allows the A team to continue (its plainly spelled out in the rules) unless the offense is very grave (3-4 teams ect).

Hydra was removed for colluding with Outbreak.


You can say we can't guess their intent, but we don't have to guess their intent, they did the exact same thing, and I do mean the EXACT same thing last year when they colluded to win the tournament. Last year that was legal, this year it isn't. Their emails were purposely vague, if they had said "Can we join a single corp on the test server for testing", the answer undoubtedly would have been a resounding NO, something they should have simply known to be the case after a rule was specifically put in because of them and what they did last year.

What is the difference between two teams joining a dummy corp on a test server to practice compared to two teams doing a scrimmage against each other for the sake of practice, other than the "tag" associated with the pilots?

I'm not picking sides here and I could care less what the outcome is/was I'm just honestly asking for a logical response, call it a clarification if you must, to what was really done "wrong".


I am an avid fan of the AT's, I've watched them every year and it is one of the things that keeps me coming back to Eve time and time again. I was one of the outraged players last year because of the final match, it pissed me off to no end. However, I see no way to truly prevent a repeat of what was done last year if the players choose to make it happen.

Each team knows who they are about to fight, and its a good bet they know who the "key" people are on that team. Quick tells and agreements can be made at any given moment throughout the tournament. We've seen offers to self-destruct to give points to a team in the middle of the tournament with no declaration that doing so would result in being remove from the tournament.

Allen Iverson was spot on when he said "we're talking about practice, practice."

All professional teams have scrimmages even before Pre-Season teams will get together and do half-day workouts to ready themselves for the real thing.

Varsity teams play against JV teams as a warm up and to provide experience for the JV team.

So, again I ask, what does it matter if on a dummy server two known Alliances were practicing against one another under the same tag? If two of the Alliances who got into the tournament run into one another on Tranquility in null sec do they have to leave each other alone from now until the Tournament is over to avoid the same fate? Did Hydra/Outbreak join to the same "team" on Tranquility???

Hydra and Outbreak are two of the best, if not THE best when it comes to the AT. Anyone who competes in ANYTHING will tell you the only way to get better is to compete against the best to hone your skills. I am not a fan of Hydra or Outbreak and don't care that they were removed, I just think the reasoning behind their removal is not only illogical, but actually takes away from the longevity of the tournament because in a way CCP is saying "don't practice, don't get better"... because as already stated, there is no way for CCP to prevent two random teams from making a last second private deal to throw a match.

I hope the other teams who have made it into the Tournament bring a better peformance than they have in the past because as much as I hated last years final match, the play by Hydra and Outbreak leading up to that match were some of the best matches.

The guys at Outbreak get it. We screwed up and just hope that we get a chance to re-enter next year.

Sorry to CCP and all the tournament fans for screwing up and we will endeavour if given the chance to make ammends in 2013 and in the mean time good luck to all in the tournament this year.

Please stop posting on behalf of 0utbreak.

ScoRpS. I am not posting on behalf of Outbreak or Hydra. I am posting because this was clearly very bad decision making due to smokescreen rules and even worse communication.

There where a lot of people just sit back and accept that I won't. Because if we accept it now we might accept the same crap another time even easier.

Find me where anybody insinuated that they trained secretly.

If you were going to rob a bank, got the guns, got the get away car, got IN the car and started the engine, would you expect the police to tell you that what you're doing is wrong before you left??

Can you apply your logic to ANY OTHER SPORTING EVENT OR SCENARIO LIKE THAT AT ALL and expect the officials to go out of their way to tell you that something you're doing thats blatantly against the rules is against the rules?

They should have simply known that CCP were mad at them (everybody knew CCP was mad at them) and carried the burden of playing it safe on their own.

I cannot fathom how you expect somebody to hand hold them and make sure they don't break rules that were obviously created specifically because of what they did, they're grown ass men, they're responsible for their own actions.