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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-06-01 06:51:55 UTC
I hear a lot of interesting observations from celebrated PVErs that '0.0 is safer then highsec' because their hulk with 3 empty mids got ganked after years of afk mining.

I think we should give these valid concerns their due and make all of EVE 0.0 (wormholes can stay) so that all of these people can enjoy the safety that we do.
Aggressive Nutmeg
#22 - 2012-06-01 07:08:41 UTC
Varesk wrote:
Just get rid of Alt posters and have everyone only post with the character that has the most sp.


But on which account? Blink

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-06-01 07:12:33 UTC
This is like shouting "SATAN!" in a room full of sociopaths. The ones that don't fall down on their knees start trying to THINK.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Frying Doom
#24 - 2012-06-01 07:19:21 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
I hear a lot of interesting observations from celebrated PVErs that '0.0 is safer then highsec' because their hulk with 3 empty mids got ganked after years of afk mining.

That kind of sums up the problem, I don't identity myself as a PVE player or a PvPer or a miner or trader. I like everyone else are a member of EvE.

Hard core PvP players seem to believe that because they have specialized in one part of EvE they are better than everyone else but in reality they are little more than than the Hardcore dungeon runners in WOW. Kind of sad.

PvP has a place in EVE but that is it a place it is not the whole game.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Josef Djugashvilis
#25 - 2012-06-01 07:28:38 UTC
Varesk wrote:
Just get rid of Alt posters and have everyone only post with the character that has the most sp.



Why?

It is the content or lack of, that is important.

Some of my views are not shared by my corp.

To post with my other main could cause them problems.

This is not a signature.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-06-01 07:50:08 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:

PvP has a place in EVE but that is it a place it is not the whole game.

Actually it is, whether in economic or direct form.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#27 - 2012-06-01 07:53:37 UTC
Why would anyone want all of eve to be 0.0? 0.0 is awful.

Make all of eve wormhole space.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-06-01 07:55:50 UTC
lol welcome to J1230215 - the rookie system
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2012-06-01 08:10:04 UTC
Large Marg wrote:
I am sure this would make things so much simpler.

Can not think of a single issue this would cause either.

No more carebears, or this hermaphrodite ganked me here and this and that.

Think how much calmer the forums will be.
Eve will be better off.





keep your dirty little fingers away from low sec.

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Frying Doom
#30 - 2012-06-01 08:11:46 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
[
PvP has a place in EVE but that is it a place it is not the whole game.

Actually it is, whether in economic or direct form.[/quote]
That is a ridiculous argument, yes the amount of PvP effects a large part of what is bought on the market but on the other hand if the price of minerals keeps increasing, due to players no longer wanting to mine then it will be the amount of mining done will effect the amount of PvP that occurs. As the cost of ships will reduce the number of times people are wanting to PvP.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2012-06-01 08:15:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Frying Doom wrote:

That is a ridiculous argument, yes the amount of PvP effects a large part of what is bought on the market but on the other hand if the price of minerals keeps increasing, due to players no longer wanting to mine then it will be the amount of mining done will effect the amount of PvP that occurs. As the cost of ships will reduce the number of times people are wanting to PvP.


You fail to realize that your reply confirms his argument.

As what comes to ship prices rising, that is actually a good thing. Meaningless PVP for the sake of PVP decreases, ships with lower SP requirements become more common and thus more viable.

.
Mangold
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
#32 - 2012-06-01 08:17:08 UTC
There was a certain event on the test server several years ago when the whole EVE universe was 0.0. It was a blast.

But to be serious for a while, ganking hulks isn't really pvp in my book. Trading is more pvp than ganking. Ganking may be fun and profitable, but it's not what I'd call pvp.
Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-06-01 08:47:10 UTC
Mangold wrote:
There was a certain event on the test server several years ago when the whole EVE universe was 0.0. It was a blast.


Yeah when they stress-tested the new blade server cluster. Titans doomsdaying each other in Jita.

I was there, it was so unreal.

But yeah, clearly people are unsatisfied with the flying in space section of this game because you're not perfectly safe, however walking in stations is also deeply unpopular. I think that CCP need to strike out in a bold new direction: FLYING IN STATIONS!

Basically we take the already sound and widely popular principals behind ship spinning and greatly expand upon them. People don't want to undock where they're vulnerable to attack, but they don't want to do nothing but spin either, so why not fly your ship around inside of stations completing menial tasks? Use your tractor beam to move cargo around, pick up passengers and act as an in-station taxi service (stations are big remember). All these activities would generate isk for you. There should also be an option to convert the number of spins on your spin counter to isk.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#34 - 2012-06-01 10:11:22 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
I hear a lot of interesting observations from celebrated PVErs that '0.0 is safer then highsec' because their hulk with 3 empty mids got ganked after years of afk mining.

I think we should give these valid concerns their due and make all of EVE 0.0 (wormholes can stay) so that all of these people can enjoy the safety that we do.


This would be most amusing. Let's float that boat and see how long it takes before it springs a big leak Twisted

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#35 - 2012-06-01 10:13:18 UTC
Jafit wrote:
Mangold wrote:
There was a certain event on the test server several years ago when the whole EVE universe was 0.0. It was a blast.


Yeah when they stress-tested the new blade server cluster. Titans doomsdaying each other in Jita.

I was there, it was so unreal.

But yeah, clearly people are unsatisfied with the flying in space section of this game because you're not perfectly safe, however walking in stations is also deeply unpopular. I think that CCP need to strike out in a bold new direction: FLYING IN STATIONS!

Basically we take the already sound and widely popular principals behind ship spinning and greatly expand upon them. People don't want to undock where they're vulnerable to attack, but they don't want to do nothing but spin either, so why not fly your ship around inside of stations completing menial tasks? Use your tractor beam to move cargo around, pick up passengers and act as an in-station taxi service (stations are big remember). All these activities would generate isk for you. There should also be an option to convert the number of spins on your spin counter to isk.


Or one step further: FLYING STATIONS. Pilot your own starbase and watch it bounce off gates and moons.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-06-01 12:02:47 UTC
Virgil Travis wrote:
Jafit wrote:
Mangold wrote:
There was a certain event on the test server several years ago when the whole EVE universe was 0.0. It was a blast.


Yeah when they stress-tested the new blade server cluster. Titans doomsdaying each other in Jita.

I was there, it was so unreal.

But yeah, clearly people are unsatisfied with the flying in space section of this game because you're not perfectly safe, however walking in stations is also deeply unpopular. I think that CCP need to strike out in a bold new direction: FLYING IN STATIONS!

Basically we take the already sound and widely popular principals behind ship spinning and greatly expand upon them. People don't want to undock where they're vulnerable to attack, but they don't want to do nothing but spin either, so why not fly your ship around inside of stations completing menial tasks? Use your tractor beam to move cargo around, pick up passengers and act as an in-station taxi service (stations are big remember). All these activities would generate isk for you. There should also be an option to convert the number of spins on your spin counter to isk.


Or one step further: FLYING STATIONS. Pilot your own starbase and watch it bounce off gates and moons.


Even one step further: MOVING CONSTELLATIONS with you.
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-06-01 12:09:08 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:

PvP has a place in EVE but that is it a place it is not the whole game.

Actually it is, whether in economic or direct form.

No, you're absolutely wrong.
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2012-06-01 12:10:12 UTC
Roime wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

That is a ridiculous argument, yes the amount of PvP effects a large part of what is bought on the market but on the other hand if the price of minerals keeps increasing, due to players no longer wanting to mine then it will be the amount of mining done will effect the amount of PvP that occurs. As the cost of ships will reduce the number of times people are wanting to PvP.


You fail to realize that your reply confirms his argument.

As what comes to ship prices rising, that is actually a good thing. Meaningless PVP for the sake of PVP decreases, ships with lower SP requirements become more common and thus more viable.

No, your post confirms mine!
Haldor Rune
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-06-01 12:58:26 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Posting in the weekly "Make all EVE fit my play style" troll thread.

There's only one per week? That seems like a miracle in itself.
Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-06-01 13:36:17 UTC
This thread should be a sticky.

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