EVE General Discussion

You should probably biomass your character, kinda gives the statement more weight.

The things miners will do before they fit a tank...

Homer: You just lost yourself a customer!
Moe: Wha? I'm sorry, Homer I couldn't hear you
Homer: I said you just lost yourself a customer!
Moe: Huh?
Homer: You just lost yourself a customer!
Moe: Homer you're going to have to speak up!
Homer: You just lost yourself a customer, Moe!
Moe: I've forced myself to wha?
Homer: You just lost yourself a customer!
Moe: Homer.. I'll talk to you tomorrow!
Homer: You just lost yourself a customer!
Moe: Yeah you can use it!

Before you go please read

HIGH SECURITY MINER SURVIVAL GUIDE
The Goonswarm Federation announced 2012.5.29 that Hulkaggeddom would be a permanent threat, and that they would pay ANY pilot in Eve 100mil for killing 10 exhumers. The compiler of this information is Little Brat, who stands ready to advise and coordinate with hisec players who wish to give gankers a run for their money and defend their part of the sandbox.
.Based on the now permanent threat, there are THINGS YOU CAN DO IMMEDIATELY.
.Your Hulk and Mackinaw have a 7.5% buff to shield resists use it! It won’t actually help much. The longer you can delay your destruction is always a good thing.
.Stop mining in a Hulk or Mackinaw. When you lose either of them, do not replace them. When you buy or build a Hulk or Mackinaw and their mods, you make it profitable to the very alliances and federations that support your destruction!
.Mine asteroids in a Coveter or Retriever using T1 mods. Mine ice in a Procurer or Retriever also with T1 mods.
.No ORE ship is safer than another; it is the cost of replacement that matters. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR SHIP at some point just expect it and move on. The gankers want you to ***** and moan and cry about it, they live for the “tears” as well as the 100mil bounties. They may have a cloaked spotter…they may use probes…they will squad warp to targets…they will have weapons grouped, overloaded, and hot keyed. They may have a nearby Orca that will jettison ships for their pods. They will attack you in Thrashers, Catalysts and even a Brutix and strive for DPS of 600 to 700. They may use drones, they may warp scramble you and if you are just starting to align…it is too late…you have been caught with your pants down.
.Have an alt shoot at you in a noob ship to attract CONCORD to your belt where they will hang around for a bit. Your alt will take a security hit and lose his ship…but that is what alts are for. In this case the gankers will try to ‘draw off’ CONCORD by creating a diversion elsewhere if they are intent on your destruction.
.Mine in a battleship. The Dom is best imo.
.Keep watch on the directional scanner (dscan) for threatening ships (as mentioned above) and align when in doubt.
.Know your enemy. Watch the videos on youtube that teaches players how to gank. Specifically: Eve Online: A gentleman’s Guide to Ganking Exhumers
.Read the General Discussion forums at least every other day. There is often good intelligence posted there. When you do, post the letter ‘X’ in reply to each forum post you read. The GoonWaffe, Goonswarm Federation, TEST and others dominate the forums and claim hisec players do not read them. Show them we do and refrain from being tempted to speak your mind.
Forum posts beyond the original poster (OP) usually devolve into grammar and punctuation trolls as well as insults towards carebears, nullbears and always the varying opinions of the ‘sandbox’. One I liked was when someone said “If there is sh*t in the sandbox, you throw it out and get new sand” lol. Occasionally, you will find a gem in the rough that makes the forums not completely useless. It is data mining lol! This guide was in fact written from information collected on the forums.
.If you are in a 1 man or low member corp or an npc corp, you can kiss your ass good bye...you are a prime target.
.Mine in a corp op with proper protection.
.Set up hot keys and safes, know about overloading.
.Be situationally aware. There are some corps you should set your contacts to red. They are: Bondage Goat Zombies; Dead Terrorists; Dreddit; GoonSwarm; Goonswarm Federation; Test Alliance Please Ignore; and The Three Six Mafia. There are others, please let me know. There may be individuals that need to be set red, if so share that info with me please.
.Understand that CCP will not interfere as they consider this a legitimate style of play. If a play style or process doesn’t break the TOS or EULA, then it is fair game.
THINGS TO DO IN THE SHORT TERM.
.A quote from the forums (that you should be reading!).
“…killing hulkageddon would be farcically easy between creating an information resource for hisec miners detailing fits, preparation, tactics, etc; an updated watchlist of known gankers with km proof; and moderated regional intel channels…”
.I intend to do these things, join me.
HIGH SECURITY MISSION RUNNER SURVIVAL GUIDE
.Watch the youtube video “Eve Online: How to Kill a Hisec Mission Runner”.
.The point of mission running gankers is to get you to aggress. They do that by stealing your loot starting the aggression timer. As the aggression timer winds down, they will reset it by stealing the loot from another wreck. If you dock they will dock with you to see when you undock while they continue to extend the aggression timer. They salivate over the hope you will confront them. They will spend hours trying to bait you into a fight and friends who you never saw will pop in and kill you in minutes if not seconds. They will know how many players in your corp are nearby. If you are in a 1 man or low member corp or an npc corp, you become a prime target. They will know what resists you have according to the mission; they will attack your weakest resist. You can end all of this with one simple act. ALWAYS in every mission without fail Abandon All Nearby Wrecks as soon as possible. You can still loot and salvage abandoned wrecks yourself; the gankers are not interested in loot…end of problem.
.In conclusion, when all else fails and your enjoyment of Eve diminishes to the point that you can no longer justify paying to play, unsub. CCP understands this very well.

Why can't I mindlessly make isk without risking anything??? What, I have to think and adapt???? I can't just mine while afk or using my bot any more???? IM LEAVING EVE GUYS!

Not a miner myself but I can understand why you are quitting. Farewell Herocles o7

If you have truly seen it all, then you know alliances don't last. Bob was the great evil, where ate they now? Pl was death to all, now what? The great Russian coalition ruled eve, bringing in mafias selling isk to laundered money in Russia.

Goons are just another alliance, like all they will rise and fall. If you have played this long, you would know that. So get over it or don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Have you never heard of a Covetor, or a dead-end system with a dozen belts?

One will earn its replacement in no time, and the other gives you plenty of time to spot a Cat or Thrasher before they even know what belt you are in.

What, the "I enjoyed the game but I'm not dumb enough to pay for something I don't enjoy anymore" attitude?

Yeah, I can see how that would be a problem.