Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's probable been said, but I'd like to see, in addition to cyno fields, an ability to lock onto a regular stargate in a system and jump directly to that system, or perhaps to all npc stations (within docking range). Rather than having to have multiple cyno alts or towers with generators all over the place. This I feel wouldn't break the game mechanics at all, just make things easier for pilots who are jump capable. Perhaps charge a nominal fee for use of these direct routes?

It would create an isk sink but then it would also remove the point of having cynos.

While i wouldnt complain since it would make my life easier.... how can you make it so thats possible but doesnt defeat the purpose of a cyno gen?

Cost can't be the sole factor in that.

So far what has been said is right on the money Cyno's are to get to ones Under Guns POS or directly into a fight, NPC stations should have a cynogen - make it a isk per jump service comparable to cost of a cyno kessy, sure the cynogen market is gonna tank but then again, adapt and overcome.

+1 Great Idea

maybe throw in a standings thing? for all those FW guys.

The fact that every capital pilot has at least one disposable cyno alt he dualboxes anyway, and most alliances have whole networks in place for their capital pilots, makes the whole system rather pointless.

Instead just make it possible to 'lock on' to the star of a system and jump in on top of it (or perhaps randomly dispersed in the system). Keep the cyno-mechanic for making tactical jumps like right into the middle of a fight or just outside a POS or station.


Plenty of people are already doing that. Most of the null-alliances can go from one side of the map to the other in minutes. The cyno-alt limitation on this is obviously broken and doesn't scale at all.

A much better limitation would be making it very expensive, to the point of multiple hours of individual null-income for dreads and carriers and even more for supercaps (and because this scales well, even larger, rich alliances will limit their jumping to alliance-level operations).

Cap-pilots will complain, but this will make the game MUCH more balanced. Instead of cap-pilots constantly bringing out the big guns for everything, caps will be more restricted as for static system defense and for high-value corporate or alliance-level strategic goals (like taking over moons or outposts). And instead of people bringing as many caps as they can, they would restrict it to as many as they need.

Instead of NAP-trains fighting non-blues on the other side of the map, we would go back to the healthier times in null when it was mostly neighbor regions fighting among themselves. It would also finally cut the logistic umbilical cord with empire through jumpfreighters, limiting their use for strategic purposes only.

+1

These are some great points. I would love to see this happen in EVE... soon.

However.. maybe not every NPC station can be jumped to, some would have cyno gens, that charge a fee to jump to... but you could still jump to any star within range, and land anywhere at random in the system (making this not safe, and therefore balanced).

EDIT: However... I don't agree that Jump Freighters should be "cut" and limited to strategic use only, I'm not privy to the current state of null markets and jump freighters and how they work etc... so maybe they should be changed to be more expensive to use, but definitely not to the point where they're no longer usable for importing goods to Sov space.

Idea needs a little work, but would be a really nice isk sink to the game, would really like not having to have a second account JUST to move my ship, but in that sense CCP wont go for it cause im having to pay for 2 accounts.

what of all the lost cyno subs...

To be honest, after some careful though and consideration, and discussion with friends, we decided that such a service, should only be available via NPC stations. In low or null sec. In low-sec, the only thing this might do is decrease demand for kestrels and cyno mods. As everyone drops the cyno at a station anyways to dock, and hopes the cyno isn't popped. In null NPC space is pretty much the same thing, pop cyno, cross fingers, or have a pos with guns to jump to.

However, to prevent moving capital fleets to stations and hot dropping someone, there should be a timer and a que. You should have to undock and attempt to jump, if you are cued up, then you either way in line to jump undocked, or dock up and try again later. I propose five minutes between capitals being allowed to jump to a certain point, on a first come, first cued basis. This timer would also increase as more and more people attempt to jump to the same point. by perhaps 30 seconds longer for each capital. (Of course making you remain undocked to keep your place in line). This extra time would indicate the npc side of things, guys moving fuel or whatever to operate the cyno in a high demand situation. etc.

How does this idea sound? I have seen some good ideas in this thread, although I'm not on board with all of them, that's why we have these discussions I suppose :)