Science & Industry

I'd use it to build stuff, making sure there was a profit between the market sell value of the materials vs the finished article.

like clixor said, S&I is about as much "clicking-work" as PVE grinding is, with the diffrence that you dont have to wait for a cple hours after you killed 11 rats but can bind in more chars.




well, if it would be that easy to be that successfull nobody would kill rats anymore. im afraid if your just starting doing Inventions/Industry, it`ll take quite a while till you reach that goal unless you want to go full unemployment mode with 15 acc. farm or more.

liquidate all your assests, buy 92 plex and take the next 8 years building it back up. repeat.

take a look here
http://www.eve-market-guide.com/

you will notice soon, that much of the science&invention gain isnt really from the invention itself but from trade margins wich transfer to the finished product.

one of the easiest products is ammunition as most will sell pretty fast with about 50% profit and is easy to produce. drawback is the long buildtime so its hard to get over 300m/month with a 10slot-char. even with 3 chars/account you wont do more than 1b isk.

modules and ships have a wider range in profit, some small, some giantic .. but dont sell as easy as ammo.

finally nobody will tell you their "best" product, cause other seller going into their markets will reduce profit, so its all about finding you own way.

Ok. granted, unemployed :)

My goal was to reach a 1b profit/day and i reached that goal with 3-5 chars (excluding trade chars setup in all hubs).

2 main inventor chars
2 char making T2 components
1 primary T2 hi-end ship building char (that was my self-imposed limit).

I must say the margins for black ops etc. were a little higher last year though (or a lot actually).

The most time went into reseaching, creating spreadsheets etc, and that was the most fun part for me, but after that it was only setting up the jobs, and adjusting the market orders. Hauling could be done through 3rd party services. After reaching maximum efficiency i guess i spent about an hour a day.

My point, if you got the base capital and all the pre-reqs (chars with skills), it doesnt matter if you make ammo, or JF's. As soon as you have the capital you should move up in the production chain (if isk/effort is important for you).

/mind blown

That's actually fantastic advice.

Ironically industry is the hard way (but much safer) to make isk in this game. When you compare all the research, planning, knowledge, time invoked with spreadsheets, market trends, buy/sell orders, managing alts research, etc.

Ask yourself if you would rather spend a few hours a day doing market research and checking 1000+ buy/sell orders and flying around setting up research slots for BPO/BPC's or if you would rather fly around pew pewing things.

Indy is much harder and time consuming then PVP, but its much safer, meaning instead of blowing all your isk on replacement items you're constantly investing that money. and instead of flying around and blowing stuff up your making spread sheets and looking at margins. It's really you need to decide if you want to be a bookkeeper or fly a jet.

I never use a spreadsheet. Probably just becuase I don't know how, and the few times I seriously considered taking the time to teach myself, I fell asleep.

I usually just look at what it takes to make the item, do some simple math in my head, look at how many people are selling said item, how much of said item gets sold, then I close my eyes and watch things move around in the dark. After about 30 seconds a decision has been made.

I went into null space with 10m ISK, a few months later I had a little over 1B in sale orders on the market, another half billion in buy orders, control of every item I produce, and I'm constantly expanding.


If I had 46b, I'd use it to fund whatever it is that I enjoy doing in EVE.