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Killing infinite hulkageddon
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hank boar
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-05-29 22:49:44 UTC
Najenna wrote:
Phoehnix wrote:
I see all these posts about unsubbing, wah wah-ing to CCP etc.

But if you want to stop the infinite hulkageddon, just start using covetors instead of hulks.

- They're much cheaper to lose
- They aren't worth ganking in the long run
- They are almost as good as the hulk at mining

If everyone stopped the ******* crying and stepped down to covetors I'm sure you'd see hulkageddon die pretty quickly.

(Yes I know "hulkageddon" has ended now, but I didn't know what else to call this)



Who the Fk are you to dictate what we fly? You can't tell people who pay for a subscription to step down out of a ship that takes awhile to learn to fly. You have some nerve.

The problem is that C.C.P. has to fix the way mining is done. A way to get rid of the macro users. That was the whole point to Hulkageddon in the first place. Was to disrupt macro users. Not for asshats like you to tell miners to step down in a ship.



actualy nothing wrong with mining,,,, Hulkageddons main goal is to put isk in the pockets of the T2 moons owners it is realy that simple


Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures
#22 - 2012-05-29 22:53:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Najenna
None ofthe Above wrote:
Najenna wrote:
Phoehnix wrote:
I see all these posts about unsubbing, wah wah-ing to CCP etc.

But if you want to stop the infinite hulkageddon, just start using covetors instead of hulks.

- They're much cheaper to lose
- They aren't worth ganking in the long run
- They are almost as good as the hulk at mining

If everyone stopped the ******* crying and stepped down to covetors I'm sure you'd see hulkageddon die pretty quickly.

(Yes I know "hulkageddon" has ended now, but I didn't know what else to call this)



Who the Fk are you to dictate what we fly? You can't tell people who pay for a subscription to step down out of a ship that takes awhile to learn to fly. You have some nerve.

The problem is that C.C.P. has to fix the way mining is done. A way to get rid of the macro users. That was the whole point to Hulkageddon in the first place. Was to disrupt macro users. Not for asshats like you to tell miners to step down in a ship.


OP isn't dictating anything.

IF, notice the IF.

OP is showing you that by buying Hulks you are throwing ISKs into the pockets that are paying the bounty on that same hull.

Its like the mole paying to participate in the whack-a-mole. If that's your idea of fun, by all means continue.


Everyone has thier own way of fun. If I want to fly a hulk Then I will But I also will fit it out properly to be able to handle a oncoming gank. People have tried to gank me in my Hulk and my Mackinaw but It was not I who was in a pod at the end. My attackers where. ( And they were pissed )..

Anyways To all miners fly your ship fit it properly. Don't mine alone. You will live longer and save isk. Knowledge is power and power is survival.
bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#23 - 2012-05-29 23:03:40 UTC
Avid Bumhumper wrote:
Phoehnix wrote:
I see all these posts about unsubbing, wah wah-ing to CCP etc.

But if you want to stop the infinite hulkageddon, just start using covetors instead of hulks.

- They're much cheaper to lose
- They aren't worth ganking in the long run
- They are almost as good as the hulk at mining

If everyone stopped the ******* crying and stepped down to covetors I'm sure you'd see hulkageddon die pretty quickly.

(Yes I know "hulkageddon" has ended now, but I didn't know what else to call this)



You don't understand the mindset of a ganker do you?



You dont understand the mindset of a carebear miner do you?
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-05-29 23:07:00 UTC
Phoehnix wrote:
I see all these posts about unsubbing, wah wah-ing to CCP etc.

But if you want to stop the infinite hulkageddon, just start using covetors instead of hulks.

- They're much cheaper to lose
- They aren't worth ganking in the long run
- They are almost as good as the hulk at mining

If everyone stopped the ******* crying and stepped down to covetors I'm sure you'd see hulkageddon die pretty quickly.

(Yes I know "hulkageddon" has ended now, but I didn't know what else to call this)


It would not, would just prove how overpowered are blaster catalysts or arty thrashers

brb
Captain' Jack Sparrow
#25 - 2012-05-30 00:01:40 UTC
None ofthe Above wrote:


Its like the mole paying to participate in the whack-a-mole. If that's your idea of fun, by all means continue.



That made me nearly spray my Mt. Dew on my keyboard through my nose!
None ofthe Above
#26 - 2012-05-30 00:02:13 UTC
Najenna wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:
Najenna wrote:
Phoehnix wrote:
I see all these posts about unsubbing, wah wah-ing to CCP etc.

But if you want to stop the infinite hulkageddon, just start using covetors instead of hulks.

- They're much cheaper to lose
- They aren't worth ganking in the long run
- They are almost as good as the hulk at mining

If everyone stopped the ******* crying and stepped down to covetors I'm sure you'd see hulkageddon die pretty quickly.

(Yes I know "hulkageddon" has ended now, but I didn't know what else to call this)



Who the Fk are you to dictate what we fly? You can't tell people who pay for a subscription to step down out of a ship that takes awhile to learn to fly. You have some nerve.

The problem is that C.C.P. has to fix the way mining is done. A way to get rid of the macro users. That was the whole point to Hulkageddon in the first place. Was to disrupt macro users. Not for asshats like you to tell miners to step down in a ship.


OP isn't dictating anything.

IF, notice the IF.

OP is showing you that by buying Hulks you are throwing ISKs into the pockets that are paying the bounty on that same hull.

Its like the mole paying to participate in the whack-a-mole. If that's your idea of fun, by all means continue.


Everyone has thier own way of fun. If I want to fly a hulk Then I will But I also will fit it out properly to be able to handle a oncoming gank. People have tried to gank me in my Hulk and my Mackinaw but It was not I who was in a pod at the end. My attackers where. ( And they were pissed )..

Anyways To all miners fly your ship fit it properly. Don't mine alone. You will live longer and save isk. Knowledge is power and power is survival.


I think the point is: don't buy new hulks. If you can manage that by flying your old one and not letting it get blown up, then great.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
None ofthe Above
#27 - 2012-05-30 00:03:07 UTC
Captain' Jack Sparrow wrote:
None ofthe Above wrote:


Its like the mole paying to participate in the whack-a-mole. If that's your idea of fun, by all means continue.



That made me nearly spray my Mt. Dew on my keyboard through my nose!



Sorry 'bout that, Capt. Jack

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#28 - 2012-05-30 00:34:42 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Phoehnix wrote:
I see all these posts about unsubbing, wah wah-ing to CCP etc.

But if you want to stop the infinite hulkageddon, just start using covetors instead of hulks.

- They're much cheaper to lose
- They aren't worth ganking in the long run
- They are almost as good as the hulk at mining

If everyone stopped the ******* crying and stepped down to covetors I'm sure you'd see hulkageddon die pretty quickly.

(Yes I know "hulkageddon" has ended now, but I didn't know what else to call this)


It would not, would just prove how overpowered are blaster catalysts or arty thrashers

Then you ask for covetor tank bonuses, oh wait, might as well just get that on the hulks which have the ~better yield~ you want.

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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#29 - 2012-05-30 00:42:27 UTC
/me wonders which trading hub OP is selling Covetors in. Big smile

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c4 t
Cosmic Psychedelics
#30 - 2012-05-30 01:00:00 UTC
Phoehnix wrote:
I see all these posts about unsubbing, wah wah-ing to CCP etc.

But if you want to stop the infinite hulkageddon, just start using covetors instead of hulks.

- They're much cheaper to lose
- They aren't worth ganking in the long run
- They are almost as good as the hulk at mining

If everyone stopped the ******* crying and stepped down to covetors I'm sure you'd see hulkageddon die pretty quickly.

(Yes I know "hulkageddon" has ended now, but I didn't know what else to call this)


How am I the first one to like your post? This is the solution to mining woes. Unfortunately it seems that the majority of vocal miners literally, and I mean literally, not figuratively, have downs.
Atomic Virulent
Embargo.
#31 - 2012-05-30 01:03:16 UTC
I couldn't agree more.. a toon with 1 weeks skills can build hulks and they are cheap bpcs. But, there is another way...

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Their purpose is admittedly to ruin our game, so just don't play the game and they have nothing to gank... ruining their game.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#32 - 2012-05-30 01:04:55 UTC
Atomic Virulent wrote:
I couldn't agree more.. a toon with 1 weeks skills can build hulks and they are cheap bpcs. But, there is another way...

(long spammy word)

Their purpose is admittedly to ruin our game, so just don't play the game and they have nothing to gank... ruining their game.

You love telling people to not deal with the sandbox, just run away, huh.

Take your ball and leave so to speak. Because your mining ball (aka Hulk) got ganked.

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Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-30 01:07:55 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Take your ball and leave so to speak. Because your mining ball (aka Hulk) got ganked.


If they're not enjoying the game, it's irrational to do otherwise.
Phoehnix
Swiss Tax Avoidance Bank Inc
#34 - 2012-05-30 03:37:07 UTC
I'm glad to see a few people getting it.

You who say covetors still get ganked, yes of course they will, but the monetary loss you get is almost non-existant, and the gankers won't get paid either.

Najenna wrote:


Who the Fk are you to dictate what we fly? You can't tell people who pay for a subscription to step down out of a ship that takes awhile to learn to fly. You have some nerve.


And I'm sorry, this just looks stupid to me. What is the difference, in control or gameplay, between flying a hulk and flying a covetor. The only difference is that you get a little bit more mining yield (and yes more tank, but that doesn't seem to work for people anyway huh).
But if you think this small mining yield bonus is worth losing hulks over and at the same time putting money back into goonswarms pocket (which some people have already pointed out), then by all means, keep dying.
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-05-30 04:27:00 UTC
Phoehnix wrote:
I'm glad to see a few people getting it.

You who say covetors still get ganked, yes of course they will, but the monetary loss you get is almost non-existant, and the gankers won't get paid either.

Najenna wrote:


Who the Fk are you to dictate what we fly? You can't tell people who pay for a subscription to step down out of a ship that takes awhile to learn to fly. You have some nerve.


And I'm sorry, this just looks stupid to me. What is the difference, in control or gameplay, between flying a hulk and flying a covetor. The only difference is that you get a little bit more mining yield (and yes more tank, but that doesn't seem to work for people anyway huh).
But if you think this small mining yield bonus is worth losing hulks over and at the same time putting money back into goonswarms pocket (which some people have already pointed out), then by all means, keep dying.



I am only in my first month of playing EVE. Reading your statement I am trying to figure out how the goons make money from ganking hulks when they do not ganking covetors. From what I understand both mine a lot of minerals and the difference in load between them is not that much. Then when a ship dies their is always the odds that their mod and cargo drop. So what is it that the hulks have that make so much more money for the goons than a covertor does? I understand that they cost the miner more to buy one? So is that it? Are you saying the goons are behind the ship building of the hulks and they make a killing off the miner when he buys a new one? Other than that I just do not see the cash flow. Even if an expensive mod goes on the hulk what are the odds it will drop? I think ganking hulks is more about the loss to the miner than it is about profit to the goons. Perhaps that is why the covertor is not such a target because it is easy and cost effective to replace.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#36 - 2012-05-30 04:29:19 UTC
Phoehnix wrote:
And I'm sorry, this just looks stupid to me. What is the difference, in control or gameplay, between flying a hulk and flying a covetor. The only difference is that you get a little bit more mining yield (and yes more tank, but that doesn't seem to work for people anyway huh).
But if you think this small mining yield bonus is worth losing hulks over and at the same time putting money back into goonswarms pocket (which some people have already pointed out), then by all means, keep dying.

But it's in HIGHSEC, why are goonies even allowed there?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#37 - 2012-05-30 04:34:02 UTC
Hammer Crendraven wrote:
Phoehnix wrote:
I'm glad to see a few people getting it.

You who say covetors still get ganked, yes of course they will, but the monetary loss you get is almost non-existant, and the gankers won't get paid either.

Najenna wrote:


Who the Fk are you to dictate what we fly? You can't tell people who pay for a subscription to step down out of a ship that takes awhile to learn to fly. You have some nerve.


And I'm sorry, this just looks stupid to me. What is the difference, in control or gameplay, between flying a hulk and flying a covetor. The only difference is that you get a little bit more mining yield (and yes more tank, but that doesn't seem to work for people anyway huh).
But if you think this small mining yield bonus is worth losing hulks over and at the same time putting money back into goonswarms pocket (which some people have already pointed out), then by all means, keep dying.



I am only in my first month of playing EVE. Reading your statement I am trying to figure out how the goons make money from ganking hulks when they do not ganking covetors. From what I understand both mine a lot of minerals and the difference in load between them is not that much. Then when a ship dies their is always the odds that their mod and cargo drop. So what is it that the hulks have that make so much more money for the goons than a covertor does? I understand that they cost the miner more to buy one? So is that it? Are you saying the goons are behind the ship building of the hulks and they make a killing off the miner when he buys a new one? Other than that I just do not see the cash flow. Even if an expensive mod goes on the hulk what are the odds it will drop? I think ganking hulks is more about the loss to the miner than it is about profit to the goons. Perhaps that is why the covertor is not such a target because it is easy and cost effective to replace.


Welcome to Eve! GSF is part of a cartel (OTEC) that owns all the moons in Null Sec that produce a mineral required to build a Hulk. Everytime a miner loses a Hulk they go buy a new one and thereby give money to the same people that are sponsoring the hunting and blowing up of the Hulk. It is utilizing their monopoly of a resource as a spigot of isk. And the vast majority of the mining community thinks its about griefing.

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Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-05-30 04:39:34 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Hammer Crendraven wrote:
Phoehnix wrote:
I'm glad to see a few people getting it.

You who say covetors still get ganked, yes of course they will, but the monetary loss you get is almost non-existant, and the gankers won't get paid either.

Najenna wrote:


Who the Fk are you to dictate what we fly? You can't tell people who pay for a subscription to step down out of a ship that takes awhile to learn to fly. You have some nerve.


And I'm sorry, this just looks stupid to me. What is the difference, in control or gameplay, between flying a hulk and flying a covetor. The only difference is that you get a little bit more mining yield (and yes more tank, but that doesn't seem to work for people anyway huh).
But if you think this small mining yield bonus is worth losing hulks over and at the same time putting money back into goonswarms pocket (which some people have already pointed out), then by all means, keep dying.



I am only in my first month of playing EVE. Reading your statement I am trying to figure out how the goons make money from ganking hulks when they do not ganking covetors. From what I understand both mine a lot of minerals and the difference in load between them is not that much. Then when a ship dies their is always the odds that their mod and cargo drop. So what is it that the hulks have that make so much more money for the goons than a covertor does? I understand that they cost the miner more to buy one? So is that it? Are you saying the goons are behind the ship building of the hulks and they make a killing off the miner when he buys a new one? Other than that I just do not see the cash flow. Even if an expensive mod goes on the hulk what are the odds it will drop? I think ganking hulks is more about the loss to the miner than it is about profit to the goons. Perhaps that is why the covertor is not such a target because it is easy and cost effective to replace.


Welcome to Eve! GSF is part of a cartel (OTEC) that owns all the moons in Null Sec that produce a mineral required to build a Hulk. Everytime a miner loses a Hulk they go buy a new one and thereby give money to the same people that are sponsoring the hunting and blowing up of the Hulk. It is utilizing their monopoly of a resource as a spigot of isk. And the vast majority of the mining community thinks its about griefing.


Ok so I was kinda close they have a corner on the hulk market interesting. Well then these miners have to figure out a way to get around that little detail. That is what makes EVE in my book. Get er done!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2012-05-30 04:44:22 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Welcome to Eve! GSF is part of a cartel (OTEC) that owns all the moons in Null Sec that produce a mineral required to build a Hulk. Everytime a miner loses a Hulk they go buy a new one and thereby give money to the same people that are sponsoring the hunting and blowing up of the Hulk. It is utilizing their monopoly of a resource as a spigot of isk. And the vast majority of the mining community thinks its about griefing.

Yep, every bit of tech that is destroyed means there is less tech around, makes tech even more valuable, means more money.

All hulk miners, thanks for helping to pay for all our reimbursements for the blob fleets, and even your own explosive encounters with PvP.

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Phoehnix
Swiss Tax Avoidance Bank Inc
#40 - 2012-05-30 04:51:18 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
And the vast majority of the mining community thinks its about griefing.


At least some are starting to realize now, which is what im hoping for
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