EVE New Citizens Q&A

So i've not been playing eve for almost 2 years, and just got back, i noticed that an event called Hulkageddon is something that is really popular, i do alot of highsec mining, as i am to bad for pvp, and i really suck in any game pvp, as i am just bad at games.

currently u only activated 1 of my 3 accounts, as i wanted to do some level 2 missions to learn a little about combat.

however my question is, this hulkageddon, dont people wwho attack in highsec, get nuked by CONVOY? or is Highsec no longer protected ground?

If you take precautions then you will be ok.

Think of it this way, if you go into the ghetto alone at night flashing a lot of money, you will probably get jumped. Same thing here

oh well, its still a game, and there is always risk in a game.. ofcasue i get mad loosing a ship now and then, but i get over it.

thats why this game is fun

Stay sensible, use your D-Scan and watch local. If you keep on your toes, it is unlikely that Hulkageddon gankers will trouble you. Also, try getting away from the big trading systems. I usually mine about 6-8 jumps away from the nearest trading hub, and have my home base where I keep all my stuff around there somewhere.

I've found a convenient location where there are three systems. One is great for mining as there's only one station and it's easy to warp to when you're in trouble; plus that system is usually quite empty and my corp has some wonderful bookmarks that make mining the belts without moving quite easy. The other two have six (I think, lost track) level three/four agents between them, giving me a way to mine and mission run without having to move around much. Quite convenient!

They will kill you before CONCORD arrives. CONCORD has a 20 second response time. A 5 million ISK ship will kill you in 8 seconds easily with the right skills.

I mine practically every day with 2 retrievers and have no problems. The thing is you have to be vigilant. Get to know the different ship types. If someone enters the belt in something other than a mining ship or hauler, better go dock.

Hulkageddon gives incentives for players to kill mining ships, however people get ganked all the time mining outside of Hulkageddon. Hulkageddon won't stop someone from doing it, just encourage them.

Oh if only more miners thought the way you did <3

If a tornado lands on grid it can alpha any yield-fitted mining barge or exhumer from beyond 100km, tier 3 battlecruisers are long range heavy hitters.
It can lock under a second if the pilot has proper sensor boost and as a reminder, mining barges and exhumers take roughly 13 sec to align and reach 75% of sub-warp speed, not to mention the time it takes for someone a little bit aware to notice the type of ship landing on grid and react.
A catalyst or a thrasher would require a little more effort but that one will surely have a point and prevent the miner from warping and fire a first volley as soon as it has a lock and they too can lock under a second, so in any case, trying to warp away is pointless as it's already too late if you're dealing with a ganker, hence my recommendations to use local and dscan, like anyone venturing out of highsec should know, because these are early indicators allowing the miner to warp to a safe place before the gankers lands on grid.

Of course, hitting warp just for the sake of it is natural, but I found it better to warn new player that it's pointless and raise the attention on weaknesses and solar system awareness as it might prove usefull beyond the sole scope of mining.
Reacting when the ship lands on grid is recipe for a lossmail and a bad advice, it's just a matter of facts.

Alas, I've seen countless miners slacking and forgetting that rule, then whinning because they lost their hulk in a gank.

Likely, I haven't looked at any statistics but gankers aren't in every high-sec systems so a fair part of the miners are relatively safe indeed.

However, do not misread my intentions, I'm pointing out alternate solutions for miners. I have an alt in NPC corp and the same topic occurs almost daily: "I want to train for a hulk". While I don't mind if it's the guy's choice, I feel it's only fair to provide an overview of the possibilities and explain how a hulk isn't necessarily the ISK-machine they believe it is, that the uber-effectiveness of this boat comes at a price.

I remember a minning op with a corpmate to collect veld for heavy missiles, him in a rokh, my alt in a covetor T2 strips and crystals... he mined more than I did in the same period of time.

Mind me, the OP asked if he should worry about hulkageddon, if he follows basic space-awareness guidelines, he shouldn't suffer great losses, but he can't say no one warned him if he afk-mines and pays no attention to what's around him.

You have already WON EvE with that attitude

...carry on !

Side note on Hulkaggedon....unless you fly an exhumer, it ends at midnight on the EVE Server today (think it already passed).

If you fly a exhumer, Goonswarm Federation is still paying bounties on those kills indefinitely.

Ignoring that, much of the advice in this thread is really good. As long as you are paying attention and using dscan, you have greatly enhanced your chances of surviving, even if someone is going to try and gank you.

::EDIT:: confirming it should be over

I tested it last night and would say that in 1.0 CONCORD's response time is nearer 5 seconds. Obviously it wouldn't be so prompt in 0.5 but I don't know if the curve in between is linear or not. Clearly, especially with a passive targetter, it would be quite possible to alpha a T1 barge with a cheap T1 fit destroyer even in 1.0, thereafter success would depend on your recycle time I guess.