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Formal Apology to Pantsufan

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Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#61 - 2012-05-28 13:03:03 UTC
Solomon XI wrote:
Garven Dreis wrote:
Hopefully you are watching him more than you watch your assets which got nicked.

Because everything said in alliance mail and subsequently posted to EveSkunk is legitimate. Lol


And make Pantsufan look a bit weak?

Another Alliance Mail wrote:

Now that we all know who has riped off the entire alliance for no evednt reason and now yet again i am forced witha choice that i never thought i would have to make.
Let me reassure everyone i will not die nor will i give up on this allaince.
I will how ever repay for everyones losses that was ripped of from black camper. I was the most lost in all this and my loss is small in my eyes compared to what ever it was you guys lost even if it was small than mine
heres what i need a list or amount of isk that was lost

-A- will not be reseting us you have my word on that and if need be i will get a leader from them to say it them selves or send a mail to me

Heres how i see this can pan out due to what has happen i would not blame any corp for leave i would request all to stay as we have been through so much and we have over come the odds. Lets over come this.
Ignore black campers mail please everyone i know its not that easy i am implore to ignore it


The JF serivce will be dont through my self or with in corps for now it is canceld

Guys i am a man of my word and i will replace or repay losses and when i mean we over come this i mean BURN EVE i am just kidding what i really mean is contumie what we have plan adn set out to do.

To all the new corps I am sorry for you having to deal with this it is not how i run nor how a alliance should treat its new members. I am truly sorry and would request you stay and help us become amazing. We still can.


If you ahve any questions please convo me



Yep, looks like it could be a big hoax to me.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2012-05-28 14:15:35 UTC
Master T just condemned himself....sad times.

The Ironic thing is...so did Skele...lol.


People keep forgetting that posting here with that tripe is like throwing a slab of meat out for hungry dogs.... bad bad idea.

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Spymaster Black
Doomheim
#63 - 2012-05-28 19:11:28 UTC
Solomon XI wrote:
Garven Dreis wrote:
Hopefully you are watching him more than you watch your assets which got nicked.

Because everything said in alliance mail and subsequently posted to EveSkunk is legitimate. Lol



Considering pulling from the API isn't forgery I'm assuming that means you just troll your entire alliance via mail to make yourselves look bad because .... Please explain.
Solomon XI
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-05-29 11:20:48 UTC
Spymaster Black wrote:
Solomon XI wrote:
Garven Dreis wrote:
Hopefully you are watching him more than you watch your assets which got nicked.

Because everything said in alliance mail and subsequently posted to EveSkunk is legitimate. Lol



Considering pulling from the API isn't forgery I'm assuming that means you just troll your entire alliance via mail to make yourselves look bad because .... Please explain.

Information warfare? Counter intelligence? Big smile

Yeah... you're not buying into any of this, are you?
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-05-29 12:39:39 UTC
Can anyone from SKELE confirm or deny the Alliance theivery.

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don camper
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-05-29 13:12:47 UTC
I am a member of The Skeleton Crew.

Operation Dasvidaniya as we call it went, on for 9 days. Anyone else would have caught on instantly, but not SKELE. As you can see from this post even, they still have not rooted out all the involved parties. They still have not realized the extent of how poor the recruiting and security is. There are more besides me as well.

Despite an obvious frame job of a newer pilot recruited into the holding corp, alliance leadership refused to accept reality and instead told the alliance that the billing system was broken and bugged and that's why the sov was lost. Actualy, I took them as I had roles to do so. This was one of many aspects of Operation Dasvidaniya.

As for confirming the theft, yes.

Here is a list of what was taken, there is more to be inventoried, but this is the meat and potatoes:

4 Ihubs
10 TCUs
3 Large Shadow Towers
14 hulks
12 macks
5 Tengu
1 Obelisk
1 bil moon goo
20+ covops/SB
about 10 recons
5 large towers
4 medium towers
misc POS mods/guns
Scorpion/Ruppy/Myrm/Geddon BPOs
Misc Ammo BPOs
Cyna/Mach BPC
Revelation BPC kit
Chimera BPC kit
Captial Armor Plates BPO
Capital Drone Bay BPO
Nyx BPC
Assorted tags/faction mods
DED loot, B-type shiled boosters, X-type hardernes, etc
4 Faction Bs
15 BS
20+ BC
5 JF's full of compressed ABC/M
500k M3 in ammo/drones

Still selling it all, but so far over 50bil
PreZiDenT1
Moist Wanted.
OnlyFleets.
#67 - 2012-05-29 14:35:26 UTC
Locked. This is now an incursion thread.
Jamie Masterson
Doomheim
#68 - 2012-05-29 14:45:10 UTC
Confirming SKELE is missing 50 bil isk. Confirming they have no clue on how POS, security, or Sov mechanics work, and will recruit any corp or player regardless of how sketchy or obvious spai they are.
I encourage you to apply.

Confirming I am the alt created to warn the innocents prior to Dasvidaniya. Confirming most did not.

Confirming the alliance leadership sent a mail out in the holding corp asking for donations and (see eveskunk) agreed to replace all stolen items (with what isk?)

Confirming I had a sausage, egg and cheese mcGridle for breakfast.


Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2012-05-29 15:01:52 UTC
...after all it seems it was worth reading through 4 pages of dogpile to find such a delicious outcome...

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
PantsuFan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2012-05-29 20:23:25 UTC
Just so everyone knows Don Campers Main is BlackCamper
To set the record stright yes we had Blackcampers corp steal not just from my self which tbh was fine but taken from members who was just trying to enjoy the game. So i must say that Blackcamper you sir are a master at being a moron the BPO's was all yours as was the BPC kit you purchased from me you sir are retarted. I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.

So all in all lets recap your a liar to not just my self but your own corp members, you betray people who call you a friend good job on that great way to show character, and lastly you a immature child its a game play it, if you had a problem with one person who was myself could have just scammed me not them members. BTW just so you know i have never been broke nor will I good job get your story stright and all has been remburst.

Thank you all for reading this and listeningto Blackcampers aka Don Campers ******** statement

Pantsufan    ARMY EXEC
Michelle Wie
Home for Terrible Arazu Pilots
#71 - 2012-05-29 20:28:51 UTC
This ^

Also confirming copius amounts of madbro/tears.

The alliance leader asked for stolen stuffs to be returned. Was considering it but he sent an alliance mail saying he would replace all, so he seems to not be in any need of the return of said items.

Also, do you have any idea how long it would take to track down all the buyers of all the stuff and refund them? It was a LOT of stuff.

I believe they are recruiting. Check them out. SKELE ticker.
the teddybear
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#72 - 2012-05-29 20:41:27 UTC
don camper wrote:
I am a member of The Skeleton Crew.

Operation Dasvidaniya as we call it went, on for 9 days. Anyone else would have caught on instantly, but not SKELE. As you can see from this post even, they still have not rooted out all the involved parties. They still have not realized the extent of how poor the recruiting and security is. There are more besides me as well.

Despite an obvious frame job of a newer pilot recruited into the holding corp, alliance leadership refused to accept reality and instead told the alliance that the billing system was broken and bugged and that's why the sov was lost. Actualy, I took them as I had roles to do so. This was one of many aspects of Operation Dasvidaniya.

As for confirming the theft, yes.

Here is a list of what was taken, there is more to be inventoried, but this is the meat and potatoes:

4 Ihubs
10 TCUs
3 Large Shadow Towers
14 hulks
12 macks
5 Tengu
1 Obelisk
1 bil moon goo
20+ covops/SB
about 10 recons
5 large towers
4 medium towers
misc POS mods/guns
Scorpion/Ruppy/Myrm/Geddon BPOs
Misc Ammo BPOs
Cyna/Mach BPC
Revelation BPC kit
Chimera BPC kit
Captial Armor Plates BPO
Capital Drone Bay BPO
Nyx BPC
Assorted tags/faction mods
DED loot, B-type shiled boosters, X-type hardernes, etc
4 Faction Bs
15 BS
20+ BC
5 JF's full of compressed ABC/M
500k M3 in ammo/drones

Still selling it all, but so far over 50bil



hey, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on sum of that loot

My post anger you? too bad, suck it up and move along.
Jamie Masterson
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-05-29 20:44:52 UTC
Ice mining op cancelled. Plenty of frozen tearz here.





Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-05-29 22:50:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Garven Dreis
Wow. Hats off to BlackCamper and co. for pulling off an amazing heist.

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jimmyjam
Fire Mandrill
#75 - 2012-05-30 01:44:01 UTC
This allmost seems like a pod or post type of issuse i thought CCP did not like those Big smile
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2012-05-30 01:51:47 UTC
Talk about freaky.... I say Skele has condemed themselves and look what happened...a juicy heist.


Damn.Shocked

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Red Rydah
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2012-05-30 01:57:14 UTC
Ehnea Mehk wrote:

Funny guy. Smile

Getting back to the subject at hand, It doesn't matter what really happened. What matters now is how Claws is going to be perceived for apologizing in the forums. They're going to look whipped. They're going to look like an easy mark. I wouldn't be surprised if Skeleton Crew comes back for seconds down the road, assuming someone else does not beat them to it.

If both parties felt Claws had to apologize, fine, but the smart thing was to leave it in-game. Optics have a tendancy of doing more damage than the truth. Any politician who puts his foot in his mouth over a verbal gaffe understands this very well.

Ehnea.


Claws isn't looking like the easy mark now, judging by the turn of events. It's the other way around.

RR
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-05-30 08:49:20 UTC
Yes I'd say this has highlighted a vulnerability in SKELE.

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Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-05-30 12:11:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
Quote:
Just so everyone knows Don Campers Main is BlackCamper
To set the record stright yes we had Blackcampers corp steal not just from my self which tbh was fine but taken from members who was just trying to enjoy the game. So i must say that Blackcamper you sir are a master at being a moron the BPO's was all yours as was the BPC kit you purchased from me you sir are retarted. I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.


They also stole all the punctuation in your first paragraph, except two or three dots which are feeling extremely lonely and, actually, seem a bit pointless inside such a wall.

Also, this reply is too good to be true, and Blackcampers should treasure and cherish it, even over the nice amount of ISK they manage to get their hands on.

This. This thread and messages like this one are the real prize.
SojournerRover
Explorer Corps
#80 - 2012-05-30 13:09:56 UTC  |  Edited by: SojournerRover
Isn't the skeleton crew an all encompassing alliance that allows corporations do live wherever they want and do whatever they want? You could even live in a wormhole and come out and pone 00 corps and still be a part of the skeleton crew. Oh it's ok, we just want numbers so we look big and bad.

Somebody put some Ice product in my coke please.

The 00 version of Talocan United in wormholes
We like pi!

These guys actually won a war?

[b][u]ROVER[/u] (REDRUM)[/b]