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New dev blog: Price Indices - August 2011

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2011-10-04 17:22:29 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fallout
CCP Recurve is back to tell us about the development of price indices. Check out his latest blog right here and share your market speculations right here in the comment thread as always.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard

Zirse
Risktech Analytics
#2 - 2011-10-04 17:25:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Zirse
First.

Not really the devblog I was hoping for.

The wiki's on the price indices were neat though, but I'd still rather see even a yearly QEN (YEN?)
mkint
#3 - 2011-10-04 17:42:23 UTC
Still waiting for those dev blogs that tell us whether or not it's worth caring about that any more.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Arklan1
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-10-04 17:56:21 UTC
mkint wrote:
Still waiting for those dev blogs that tell us whether or not it's worth caring about that any more.


couldn't have put it better myself.

still - that negative corelation is very interesting. can't wait to see what impact current activites (goons and blue ice, that is) will have in the long run.
Callic Veratar
#5 - 2011-10-04 17:59:11 UTC
Arklan1 wrote:
still - that negative corelation is very interesting. can't wait to see what impact current activites (goons and blue ice, that is) will have in the long run.


There's an (unlikely) possibility that Gallente Starbase production drops in favour of the other races, but Ice isn't broken down by class, so I don't think we'll really know the answer with the current data resources.
Tareal Nimhiem
Shell Trading Corp
#6 - 2011-10-04 18:25:46 UTC
In any case the Economy is heading for a down curve... BUY EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!
Neramore
Surprise Proctology
1st World Problems
#7 - 2011-10-04 19:00:34 UTC
Thank you for asking a question about something you didn't know about, instead of making a statement based on assumptions. That's actually the thing I find most interesting about this dev blog post.
Awesome stuff.
Darth Sith
Genbuku.
Psycho Unicorn Squad
#8 - 2011-10-04 19:39:34 UTC
Meh ....


Bring out the blogs we actually care about and for heaven's sake don't let Zulu write them ...

Lars Erlkonig
Discrete Solutions Ltd.
#9 - 2011-10-04 20:14:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Lars Erlkonig
mkint wrote:
Still waiting for those dev blogs that tell us whether or not it's worth caring about that any more.


Where's the Zulu blog?

EDIT: No disrespect to CCP Guard, who is actually producing timely and constructive information filled Dev Blogs. One of your co-workers has managed not so much to **** [really I can not say a euphemism for micturation?] off, but rather has created a new level of apathy amongst players that makes them not wish to log in. This, I would guess also has a large market impact. When EVE loses its players or the stream of ships getting blown to bits recedes, that too has a market impact.

Also, check out those Oxygen Isotope prices. Will be interesting to see what types of data the recent price spike and hoarding is causing with respect to CCP's index data.
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers
#10 - 2011-10-04 20:24:05 UTC
mkint wrote:
Still waiting for those dev blogs that tell us whether or not it's worth caring about that any more.


Still watching the space. Still nothing in it.

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-10-04 22:22:36 UTC
CCP Zulu =/= CCP Recurve
Therefore, they may both write different devblogs simultaneously.

Is that really so hard to understand?
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#12 - 2011-10-04 22:28:29 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
CCP Zulu =/= CCP Recurve

thats a lie. CCP has 1 employe and 599 alts.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Imigo Montoya
BreadFleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#13 - 2011-10-05 00:03:33 UTC
Interesting enough, but I too would rather get the QEN, even without the pretty pictures and fancy typography.

Straight text and images (for the graphs) would do fine.
Erik Finnegan
Polytechnique Gallenteenne
#14 - 2011-10-05 10:35:22 UTC
...keeps watching this space.
Adunh Slavy
#15 - 2011-10-05 11:40:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Adunh Slavy
Perhaps the negative correlation is a function of opportunity cost, time spent mining ice vrs time spent running around doing PI.

It would seem that those who run a POS would have the ability to both mine ice and do significant amounts of PI. When ice is cheap, time is better spent on PI and vice versa. Since time of the POS owner is the truly only limited resource, it makes sense, from their perspective, to spend time where it reduces material cost the most.

Unlike the real world, for a POS owner, short term variable cost is not labor, it is where labor is spent, their own labor. From the perspective of the POS owner, traditional fixed costs, materials, is their short term variable cost, so they likely switch to producing whatever has the highest cost on the market. Their labor, how much time they are going to spend playing Eve is instead what is realtivly fixed long term.

P.S. Notice the graph also shows some compression of the behavior. If this will continue or not, who knows.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Martyr 01
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-10-05 14:31:05 UTC
Is there any chance we could get some nice graphs plotting GTC and plex price development since 2006 or so?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2011-10-05 16:19:03 UTC
It's good to see that the information flow is being maintained. Yes we're all waiting for The Big DevBlog, but "little" stuff like this is important too.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-10-05 16:51:18 UTC
Eh,

Classic demand and delayed supply action of any economy.....

Not rocket science.

As an after thought, Perhaps things are a little to easy to acquire in eve?
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