EVE General Discussion

I am looking to get into PVP without losing the Indy side of the game.

I have 2 accounts which I use to run a hi-sec research & manufacturing corp. I have one account deddicated now to PVP skils. I have a hi-sec POS, 30+ T2 manufacturing jobs, 3 freighters in production, BP's researching, copy jobs, invention jobs, 10 planets, dozens of market orders, etc. I really enjoy that part of the game, but I want more!!!

Recently in search of PVP I have ground up the standings and installed a jump clone on the other side of the galaxy from my home systems. I moved about 30 t1 frigs and fittings to that station and have been going on solo roams in lo-sec. I have only gotten one kill so far , but have had a lot of fun loosing +/- 10 frigs. I am having fun in lo-sec, but I have to go to FW systems to find any fights.

I dont think 0.0 is an option. FROM WHAT I READ, the PVP is blob/blob, manufacturing/trade is not doable, and the logistics is more that I could manage without signifigant assistance. I am a self sufficent player and do not like the idea of being totally dependant on another person who may or may not log in today.

I know I can just join some other corp, but that that would hinder my indy operations. The security of my BP's using some Corps POS & Labs, and the availability of Lab slots, etc.

I love the idea of w-hole space, solo/small gang PVP, no local, mass limits on holes, PI & Grav sites, no security standings to worry about. I think I could put warfare links on my orca while it is parked at the POS while my PVP account is out blowing stuff up. I could just bring in relativly cheap mod/ammo bp's to manufacture T2 from, bringing in moon mats on the return trip from taking goods to market. But I am not sure if it is realistic to manufacture in a w-hole. I am also not sure if there are decent w-hole alliances who would take a PVP noob like me. I know it is not realistic/smart to do solo.

I am looking for advice. Are there good fights in low besides in FW systems? Is manufacturing feasible in a w-hole? If you were sitting in my pod, where would you go?

Thank in advance,
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ps. yes this is a 1 day old forum alt

Well, your biggest problem is that you're trying to do it solo. Unfortunately, that's incredibly hard to do, especially when first starting out. But you've already taken the first step, which is realizing that isk is for buying ships to get blown up in.

My suggestion would be to look at who you're fighting. What do they do? Are they on at the same time you are? Do they seem to have fun? Do they seem organized? Look at who seems to be doing what you want to do - especially your enemies. Talk to them, see if they're the sort of people you'd want to play with. Let your killboard be your resume, and see if you can fly with them. You'll have to watch out for recruitment scams, of course - never give away anything based on a promise.

Or you can start your own corp! Check out the newbie channel, give out some advice. If a newbie is interested in the same stuff you are, take them under your wing, give them your hard-earned wisdom and advice. Make their lives a little easy - something as small as handing them a racial Cruiser skillbook might seem like nothing to you, but even a few hundred thousand isk can seem like a lot to a new guy. Eve is a social game, so find other people to hang out with.

Nullsec is certainly off limits to a new player or a new corp trying to go solo - whoever lives there now has fought for that space, and won't give it up easy. But if you make friends, you'll often find that an alliance will have some space for new guys in it, if they're not elitist jerkbags. Or you can just build your corp enough to take what you want, of course.

Don't try to solo pvp. Just don't. You'll spend hours trying to find a fight just to get blown up by a gang.

Instead, join a newbie friendly FW corp* or RvB. You'll get lots of action and learn at the same time.


*Like Rifterlings

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So I can shoot at you :D

So as long as you are willing to lose ships then solo pvp is a lot of fun. You don't need to limit yourself to an area that you want to work in, that's just gonna be a headache. The important, and arguably hardest part of solo pvp'ing, is finding fights you can win.

To find solid fights you need to go into your in game map and sort a heatmap by "average ships in space in last 30 minutes" then just start setting waypoints to areas where it looks like there is a lot of general small scale activity. Ratters trying to respond to you is going to be the bread and butter of all your solo pvp. Don't worry about where you go unless your pathing through some typical warning signs.

Things to watch out for on the map are big blobs of 15-10 or more at choke point systems especially places like ec- or hed. The other thing to look out for is small consistent numbers of pilots along a pipe, because the numbers you see are an average, what looks like 7 people in 9 consecutive systems is actually a 70 person gang that rolled through.

Once you find a fight try and split people off using distance and gate aggression to cut up groups of <10 down to winnable fights. Frigate fights are mostly just you grabbing **** and hoping the other guy dies first so they can get pretty old. I would suggest a move up to t1 cruisers so that you can get some more interesting fights.

Remember, all the skills in the world can be made up for by picking a good fight. Don't get psyched out, just go out there and lose ships.

p.s.- Learn to get your pod out when you die. You can save a pod 100% of the time unless you are lagged or bubbled.
p.p.s.- as for where to live if you want to solo pvp, stay in highsec at a central hub. If you commit to a region then there often wont be fights in the area, but if your within 20 jumps of all low and null then you can quickly find a good hunting ground.

If you have experience in the Industrial side of EVE you have faced the Hulk slaughter. The thing you can learn from that is it's not Hulks. it's every ship in EVE smaller than a capital. Most T2 frigates have 6K EHP, cruisers an average of 10K EHP and Battleships run around 100K EHP with some dps.

What it all comes down to is, for the guy being shot at, PvP in EVE is extremely short lived, battles taking less than 2 minutes to complete. Morale of the story? Fly junk. If you were going to, you are going to lose it anyway.

- Solo: you are going to get ganked and die anyway.
- Blobbed: you are going to get primaried and die anyway.

It will happen, it's a matter of how often

@OP
This is by far the best opinion someone can share.

Mine is, don't even try to pvp alone without knowing basics. High sec pvp is a joke and has not even it's place in this game, it's by far the worst pvp form in this game relying on grieffing tactics and pussy games.

Try to get in to low/null sec, contact some corps out there, watch out their forums and search for serious known ones, then apply.
At this moment you probably have one of your characters that can already offer a lot in low/null sec pvp, remote reps, ecm/damp, point stuff, web etc. there's more you can offer to your gang/fleet than you can imagine with cheapo throw away ships.

OP, I highly recommend that you look into RvB. we're a group of laid back pilots all about the pew pew.