Missions & Complexes

Could you point me into the right direction for a really really good SNI fit, please?

Having flown both, a point I feel hasn't been addressed is propulsion mods.

The SNI's extra midslots (and bonus) allow fitting of a f**k you tank, target painter AND an afterburner. The SNI's better cap allows easier use of missile rigs instead of CCCs (and can be run without cap boosters)

For me, the afterburner is crucial if you need to fly to acceleration gates or have to close distance on mission officer ships (long range engagements struggle more to break their tank - such as Rachen Mysuna in Vengeance)

If you've got good skills to use mostly T2 mods and launchers, the CNR will do more DPS at longer range (with its 10% missile velocity bonus) and critically (IMO) good T2 drone skills for dealing with frigs without a TP.


I actually prefer the SNI. The fact its a good 100 mill cheaper too is just gravy.


I dumped the CNR and am working towards a Rattlesnake (or maybe cross training to support a Nightmare) as I feel they are the next step up in performance that makes enough of an improvement over what my SNI can do. Lets not mention the poor blighted Golem as an 'improvement' :(

And it looks sexeh :)


*edit* forgot some fit for you:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/53110-Scorpion-Navy-Issue-PVE.html

they were going for about 600m, but someone jacked the price the other day (seems to be coming down pretty quickly), but usually not that much more expensive

with the new drone damage mods the rattler might do pretty well, but it is a ton of training time if you are fairly close to being well off in a raven and not worth putting off for that long. maybe a goal to go for later?

imo good enough to be worth more than anything else I could fit in that slot. on the cnr the 5th slot gets a signal amplifier II extra targets locked, extra lock range, and scan res.



easy enough to fit rigors to a cnr imo.
ab, probably the best argument I've seen for the navy scorp
if you are afraid of losing your ship just stick to an insured raven.

SNI for now and Navy Raven latter if you want for all the reasons listed already. The possilbility of screwing up and losing your ship when your new is too high don't risk it, it sucks having to try to recoup those losses.

i'm too lazy to check the numbers right now but i'd guess that to get a strong enough passive tank, you would have to use all rig slots and one or more low slots. this would hurt your already mediocre damage output even more.
when running missions, the general rule is to use just enough slots for tank and put the rest into more damage.

edit: i took the time to come up with a passive build


[Scorpion Navy Issue, lvl4]

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Shield Power Relay II

EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II
Shield Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
[Empty High slot]

Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I

as you can see, almost the whole fit is dedicated to tanking and yet you only have 330 omnitank with perfect skills. that's worse than a drake.

the difference is that the drake has a decent base shield recharge rate. almost all battleships have horrible recharge rates so you need a lot of modules to get the hp/s to a decent value.

Some level 4 missions will break a passive tank too. When that happens, you have no fallback to save your ass, whereas with an active shield booster, most of the time you just need to cycle it a few times to top up.

But when the fecal matter hits the airflow circulation device, you can run it flat out. You'll tank way more DPS with your active running, should give enough time to GTFO before your cap runs out.

Its partly for this reason that cap boosters are popular - to perma-run active tank - but I've found them unneccessary on the SNI. The tank will hold long enough to deal with any scrams for when you've messed something up and drawn whole pocket agro in a big mission and your tank is failing.

You'll also notice much earlier if incoming DPS is breaking your tank on an active setup. Waiting for your shields to hit 33% to see if your maximum passive recharge is going to hold out can be a gamble as you've only got till it hits 15% to run or melt.

Umm....

I've got the Angel Extravaganza, first time ever. Since it's better to ask than to be sorry later, do you think that the SNI can solo handle the bonus room? I stress the fact that my SNI is full t2 so no faction or anything else!

Also, is it recommended to accept the more difficult missions? Like Worlds Collide for example.


Ty

Oimecu,


Yes, the NIS/SNI can handle the entirety of Angel Extravaganza.

It can help to think of the NIS like an even more lumbering Drake for this. The NIS can do anything the Drake can -- just much better in the drone and missiles department. The big key - make sure your shield hardeners are set for ANGELS. If you are worried and concerned, just pack FOUR Shield hardeners. Yes, it's overdoing it, but, if you are legitimately concerned you may not do well in the mission, go a little over on your tank for ease of sanity.

Recommendation - bring four shield hardeners, two target painters, and the rest of your mids either go into shield booster/cap booster or afterburner and a third target painter. Why do you ask? Because then slaughtering those little frigates will be a cake-walk and you won't need to fear retreat.