EVE General Discussion

Hi I have a question for a dev regarding the High Low and Null sec and WH.

It is my view that the secs get broken down like this. High sec is for Consenual PVP e.g. WarDecs and is not a place for non-consenual PVP e.g. ganking, but can still happen hence CONCORD to try and curb it. Low sec is the place for pirates to make a name for themselves and is a palce for consensual PVP and non consnesual PVP. A somewhat open world PVP but with sec status hits hence the pirates making names for themselves. Null sec seems a Open world PVP do whatever you want without any sec hits for those hardcore PVPers. It seems to be a hardcore PVP haven and funzone. WH space seems to be the same as Nul sec just a lot more fun.

The question is, is this at all accurate? If so how accurate and if not what am I getting wrong?

Dev you do not have to answer the questions below just answer the top part. Though it would be cool if you could give some thought about the subject below. These are I guess geared towards the people who will respond to my post.

Also is this a sandbox where both hardcore and casual game play is supported. In other words is this a game with balance of PVP and PVE? If so why is there a huge imbalance of PVP being pushed on to casual PVE Players?

I am not trying to say that highsec should be 100%. This is EVE I understand that when you undock you should expect to be blown up. The game is broken in to not so safe and somewhat safe areas. It seems the PVP crowd does not think this and is pushing for all secs to be unsafe period. They are trying to push PVE players out of the game since they dont like PVE casual players. They view that we are not playing the game right and don't understand what sandbox means. Which to them means "Play our way or GTFO go play wow or hello kitty online". PVPers don't want to have PVE casual players be coddle but its ok for CCP to coddle them. There is a dangerous trend of increase ganking and I'm not talking about hulkageddon. Hulkageddon is a cool player event that is fine n dandy and is good fun for all (maybe not all). Im talking about this casual gank under the guise of market manipulation and teaching us inept PVE players how to play EVE. When the only market it significally helps is Nullsec Alliances who are the gankers. If you say highsec also gets a boost try to compare it to what they are making in nullsec to what you are making in highsec and it's not even close. Also they are at less risk since there CONCORD (players) is much better than our Copncord. The only thing they are teaching us is their view of the game which is not the only one. I just want balance back like it used to be. Yes ganking happend but not at this level it is driving out miners and industrialists who make PVP work. We are as much part of this Simulator as you are. I am a miner I love to mine roids all day long and provide ore/minerals for manufactures. Who in turn make gear for PVP and PVE use.

Also cant you make the arguemnt that ganking, in highsec, is a way of avoiding the use of the WARDEC system? Just food for thought.

I just want balance I dont want to ruin your game so why are you trying to ruin my game?

I am sorry for my poor grammar and any spelling errors.

Really? Let's read what else you wrote...


...And the other shoe drops.

Like all highsec miners you do indeed want to "ruin" our game--in fact you want to ban suicide ganking. You want to continually nerf non-consensual PvP in highsec until it is no longer possible for your mining ship to be destroyed. You want to turn EVE into a single-player game with no risk.

In doing so, you would eliminate any reason why someone would want to play EVE, and CCP would go into bankruptcy.

The good news is that if we continue to suicide gank your ships, you will eventually move into a different career in EVE (should you decide to continue playing), and you will cease advocating your destructive anti-PvP policies. By killing your ship and those of others like you, we will save EVE.

Fly safe.

So your position is that CCP should accept a violation of the gameplay elements setup in a third of the game world and reward/keep your account/subscription base but should be willing to lose that of the miners, industrialists, and marketers affected by those using suicide tactics to grief newbies and players not particularly interested in PvP?

Did you read what I said? I was pretty clear I dont want to ban gankers. I want to balance and curb the trend of everyone and their grandma doing it. Because they can not handle shooting at something that shoots back and can kill em.

No it wont go into bankrupcy cause the real pvpers will go back to playing EVE the way it was played and actaul pvp again other pvpers.

Also I play all the careers in eve I want thats the beauty of EVE. It is not about one career over the other ALL are viable. You are not imparting some sage wisdom you are just griefing. As I said I LOVE to mine, LOVE the hum of the strip miners, and I LOVE helping the market by providing ORE/Minerals. Why take that away from me when I dont want to do the same to you.

Some hope in the world.

Eve high security space is safer now than it was 5 years ago.

I was in Hulkageddon last year, seems pretty much the same. Little bit more forum whining this time around

Possibly because the High Security balance in the preceding 2 years was overtly toward safety. What we are seeing now is a swing back to where eve used to be in 2009.

Always more excuses for why they need more safety.

I want balance I do not want a immortal zone. I am trying to compromise find solutions to curb the big trend in ganking not get rid of it.