Player Features and Ideas Discussion

True stealth bomber damage would tickle a capitol ship.

Now as for the stealth aspect of the carrier and covert operations. Its an interesting concept even though she isnt a stealth ship by any means it doesnt mean she cant fit a cloaking system. Maybe she can fit a covert operations and deploy stealth-fighters instead that can operate by assignment to other ship while shes covert cloaked. I dunno its alot to think about and a window of opertunity to go explore. Maybe design the ship in such a way that it can either go covert or go regular covert being a bit thin skinnned but sneaky while regular it can slug it out with fleets. Maybe toy with the 'bastion' mode.

I also want to note that.
There was a second ship the escort carrier would have worked with was a corvette. Basically a fighter-pod ship, This ship is unable to use any means of system to system travel other than inside another ship, but it was the sort of ship you'd want to assign fighters to as it reprovided the lost carrier bonuses while inheriting the role of the fighter squadron assigned to it. Its niche but when a carrier runs out of spare ships this is the one ship it can spit out for pod pilots and should have sufficent room to fit several of.

I suggested point defense systems as well but to have something work along the lines of FoF and Defender combined may lead to some undesired results. I mean cmon well all seen how drones and fofs just do the one thing we didnt want them to do and usually with very poor results, however I do know there is a drone munching ai in the game that you can slave into these fighter drones which would consistently work at least.

Okay first post updated. I decided not to make stealth fighters but instead gave the covert mode the ability to 'stealth' the fighters now the ship itself is nearly impossible to hide while it provides telemetry to her drones but the stealthing mode allows its to be significantly harder to scan to the point if she kept moving around youd wouldnt pin point her fast enough.

I felt that giving her a covert cloak and the ability to launch fighters at the same time would be bad idea.

As for other modes they're just to make her function like a carrier but in other aspects such as the ship transport with the jump abiilty.

Most of them are to make her focus twoards one direction or another. And I would like to add some more trivial nerfs for fitting some modes. IE cuts back on the fighter bay ect ect.

One mode i forgot to add one was firecontrol mode, ill update it later.

with directional flak you could set the turret hard points to reflect a 90 deg arc, based on which one you fit it to

tough bikkies if you do self damage to your own fleet tho.

smart fleets would form porcupines/ diamonds,
and yah for roman turtles :)

+1 here

there are a few thing that i would like to see changed about your idear first:

1- a ship that cant defend its self (yest is designed with pvp in mind) is just another loss mail waiting to happen.
the ship needs to be able to lock and engage not only the drones/fighters but the parent ships as well

allow the EC (escort carrier) to target and engage anything not just deployed drones, to counter impending use of
FIs (fighter-interceptors) on non drone targets,give them a TTT (track to target) run (like current FBs are used in POS fights)
so that a FI must make a straight run at a F/FB to attack. this way the drone would have to do a strafing run of its target of say
15 to 20km (with the target at the half way point).
give the hull a FI ROF bonus so that it can take more shots in its run
the TTT would mean that hitting anything smaller than a BS would be vary unlikely

2- your plan of giving ECs a interchangeable module for different tasks is good but the cool downs are not. if i fit a specific module
i dont want to use it once then die. IMO the upgrades you stated should be like a T3 sub. fitted it constantly supply's its bonus.
if you want to change the roll of your EC then you need to dock up, un fit your ship (emptying any hangers that your current SS
grants you) fit the new SS and re fit

i would suggest the following:
-support SS - remote assistance repair/capacitor ability to triage
-offensive SS - utility highs larger drone bay ability to fit DCUs at greatly reduced PG&CPU costs
-logistic SS - corporate hangers 5Km3, ship fitting array
-command SS - ability to fit command links
-defensive SS - ability to siege its self for personal HP/rep bonus

all the SSs would have bonuses attached to them to help the EC do its SSs roll
these would be listed as the roll bonus under the info screen and would stack with the ECs class/BS related skills

3- on the front of bonuses for the hull, what would you suggest for each race (keep in mind that the drone/FI bay should probably
no be altered so that it wan field only a limited number of drones) i would say that drone bay on one of these ECs should be no
more than 500-800m3 with BW to launch 5 FIs (without bonuses/DCU boosts) 10 at skill level 5.


anyhow this is Just my opinion and has probably been asked before

DD

I dunno... I liked the ship more without all the special modules and modes.

Okay in light of the new changes, I have to nerf the escort carrier then buff it up a bit.

Fighter-Interceptors are now not as effective as they are used to be against fighters and fighter-bombers via damage reduction but are better than some options as they're automated.

Also removed the Assault mode, I didnt think it was worth having that turn off all of a sudden and be out on half of your carryable wiing.

Buff comes in the form of adding more high slots allowing for standard guns instead.

Either way with the caps mostly defanged this ship may lose its role entirely in its use other than gapping between carrier and battleship and the modes help out with learning all the roles individually.

I also added earlier concepts for the gallente and minmatar versions these are low quality 5 minute drawings mind you.

Well considering the capitol ship nerfs this ship would have proven too powerful to employ without the fighter-interceptor nerfs and when you nerf it that much well you wind up with ship thats almost utterly useless as a dominix which would rather be flown at a cheaper cost.

The engine idea was supposed to help train the carrier concept, give additional roles to the ship that are little bit non traditional but more along the lines of transitional to the carrier itself so I included all of the roles a carrier can perform on an engine as well as adressing pattern clarcs suggestion of black ops support. I can continue to nerf them to equip only bays with no fuel, but capitols do burn though fuel in thier use so it wouldnt be training if it didn't do that.

A semi tech 3 if you will, throwing an engine allows me to further restrict the ECs slot layout as a bonus.

Ill toy around with the engines give them another swing of the bat then decide on what bonuses to generally give all the ECs and well get back to seeing if they're still likeable or not.

So any more suggestions my fellow pilots other than the recent carrier changes nerfed the heck out of this class to possibly useless range/Overpowered range.