EVE General Discussion

Self entitled crybabies comes to mind when I look at these forums.

1. EVE is a game. Don't like it, leave.
2. EVE owes you nothing.
3. If you really want to help, goto SISI and help them test changes.But hardly anyone does.


You morons do more damage to the game than any glitch with your incessant whining.

DEVS : clean up the forums, like my bud said to me yesterday. "Why would I play a game who's forums are even worse than WoW "

Nuff. Said.

1. If you care and want to influence how the game develops, voice your concerns. Customer feedback on issues and design is invaluable to the devs. Often that feedback could be more constructive, but that is another matter.

2. No, but ignoring your customers entirely is a great way to lose them and listening to their concerns helps CCP to make a better game and costs them nothing extra.

3. Mostplayers pay to play and don't want to work as free Q&A workforce for CCP. Their feedback is still just as valuable. Not to mention MMO makers are notorious for ignoring test server feedback. It's a luxury they don't have when the majority gets a turn to voice their opinion. Flexing that muscle is sometimes needed to get the devs moving in a new and arguably better direction.

As for your friend, he should play the game "who's forums are even worse than WoW", because the game is usually very good and entirely separate from the forums and the forum crowd. You never have to read a single forum post to play to game.

You're a cesspool

No morons like you make the forums look bad, I mean really, and I guess you should just run along to WOW with your mate.

As for the recent unpopular changes, They ignored the feedback on SISI and only started taking notice when the community rightfully protested in every way they could, forums included.

Now stop whining about the forums you don't like and jog on.

Tal

These forums are a cesspool of badposting fools. Learn to not have smug written all over your posts, OP, because you sound like one of the people you are complaining about.

Oy... :( Not this again. OK, let's take this from the top, for the folks in the cheap seats...

1. EVE is a game. Don't like it, leave.

Most people do. When people quit MMOs, the vast majority of them simply leave, without a word. This leaves the developer in an awkward position - they are losing subscribers, which when it happens in large enough numbers kills the game (see Tabula Rasa, Hellgate London, APB, etc.) The developers might be willing to fix problems, but as people quit without comment, developers don't really know what to focus on for fixes that causes such a hemorrhage of players.

So these "self-entitled crybabies" on these forums provide a very valuable service - they let the developers know precisely the cause. Currently, that cause is the "new and improved" UI. Crybabies on the forums are a GOOD THING. You know what's worse than crybabies on the forums? Fanboys on the forums, and plummeting subscription numbers. It's called a nosedive, in aerial parlance, and it's difficult to pull out of (see SWTOR).


2. EVE owes you nothing.

Yes, and no. EVE - the game, is a product. One I paid for. As such, there's a certain expectation of services to be rendered for funds spent. When the UI changes drastically and in a very negative way with no apparent benefits, speaking up about it seems perfectly reasonable to me.


3. If you really want to help, goto SISI and help them test changes.But hardly anyone does.

Quite a few people did. Quite a few people posted quite a lot of quite negative feedback on the new UI. Some people wrote blogs, and even made videos (like Tippia, thank you by the way) to illustrate what the problems are. Plenty of feedback was provided, and from what I saw little/nothing was done to address the problems before shoving this half-baked UI into everyone's...well...I'll be nice and say throat, but I'm thinking of another orifice.

Actually these forums are quite good & helpful.

You just avoid GD and CAOD if you get annoyed by those 2 tiny parts of the EVE-o forums.

Whining detected.

Yeah, so they can release the content no matter how much negative feedback they get (inventory).

Great point.

goons aren't funny, so by definition the goon overlords can't really be laughing at us behind our backs