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So riya
Quebec's Underdog League
Quebec United Legions
#1 - 2012-05-25 18:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: So riya
Item hangar need open again and again after dock like the ship hangar click again and again f*** why the ccp want us spend more time with the inventory .. we want just play eve.. fly the ship... pvp ...but not playing with your new inventory everytime ..lost our time .... Give us back the old inventory PLZ .... or i can just say goodbye eve online
Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-25 18:50:27 UTC
this thread is new and original

hello
alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
#3 - 2012-05-25 18:54:05 UTC
It is well known CCP does not play eve (and when they do, they cheat, I bet just spawn the ships and never need to use the UI)

CCP never like, noticed that when docking windows like ships and items would auto open... corp hangers etc...

And they would open in the last place you had them...

So you had a dock lay out and a undock layout....

Want to refit?! No prob dock, ***** already open in the same place as always... pull the mod out sitck it on undock boom gone

New thing is

Open UI
Find the right hanger... scroll over list maybe... etc...
Put mod on...
Undock...

Now if you want to put something in your cargo lol or have a mod in cargo and a mod in station to fit LOL ya WAY longer WAY more clicks...

I never used to need to click open ANYTHING when docking now EVERYTIME its open UI, find the hanger, make sure you drag stuff to the right one... blah blah...

Maybe it takes up less space on the screen (not that you could not stack windows be4) but ya WAYYYYYYYYYY longer to use... fail ccp fail.
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-25 18:55:59 UTC
Every time you make a new thread where there are 150 others that say the same thing, CCP changes something else.
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#5 - 2012-05-25 18:56:57 UTC
Not happy about the new UI, but am willing to adjust.

More thread like this really sell it to CCP... really.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#6 - 2012-05-25 19:03:44 UTC
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2138/firsthybrid.jpg

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#7 - 2012-05-25 19:05:59 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2138/firsthybrid.jpg


Image macros just don't have the same effect, when you need to go through a link Ugh.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#8 - 2012-05-25 19:07:58 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2138/firsthybrid.jpg


Image macros just don't have the same effect, when you need to go through a link Ugh.



I know Sad. But you gotta work with the tools that you're given sometimes.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Gawain Edmond
Khanid Bureau of Industry
#9 - 2012-05-25 19:11:07 UTC
So riya wrote:
Item hangar need open again and again after dock like the ship hangar click again and again f*** why the ccp want us spend more time with the inventory .. we want just play eve.. fly the ship... pvp ...but not playing with your new inventory everytime ..lost our time .... Give us back the old inventory PLZ .... or i can just say goodbye eve online



can i haz ur stuf
NeBuchadenezzar
Galcase Limited
#10 - 2012-05-25 19:32:45 UTC
Im relatively new to EVE, played a few years. When I was born capsuleer, I almost instantly loved the game, that does not happen to many games...

These new changes, like the missile trails graphics, looks good, but it seems CCP hasn't thought how we, the players experience the changes out of a funtionality perspective.

1. The inventory, I say as everybody else - INVENTORY IS CRAP (notice the capital letters, it's enhanced in case you miss that sentence CCP)

2. The inventory is crap when one will salvage in, say a Noctis. When you salvaged 20+ wrecks and you have lots of containers floating with items in them, you must click EVERY WRECK one time AND +1 time in the new crappy inventory window - HOW ON EARTH DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENCE??

In the old inventory windows from wrecks got stacked - that was just perfect. Except for one thing,
- you could've changed that into a window that open ALL wreks, so that one can choose which items to grab from all wreks simultaniously (which is in range around you ofcourse).
-Or a funtion where ONE button opens all wrecks, which will spare our soar wrists (everyone will say EVE online is ergonomical, nifty isn't it?)

3. Now with the new trails on missiles - it DOES look good I give you that, but I cant see where im shooting, maybe its just me but I think that sux. I mean If one zoom out on your ship there is noway that you can see the trails, I mean...what's the point? Many players zoom out to get a better view or to make a movie. I cant see the good in changing missile trails If you can't make them more visible.

Show us some respect here please, we are paying YOUR salary every month CCP. I biting my tounge here not to say offensive things, that won't help anyone anyway but I do say that im frustrated you make changes, which have absolutely no sence.

We will play EVE online even if you won't change back to what it was, or into something funtional or well thought through. The question is for how long people will continue play it, since it will get dull and boring to go through hoards of tedious clicks.



Please, if you cant take suggestions on how WE the players want it, at least change the inventory back to what it was.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#11 - 2012-05-25 19:44:08 UTC
Yay for more whiny little self entitled bastards. Why not put your pathetic whine into one of the other threads that we are all trying to ignore, rather than clogging the front page with your self indulgent baby tantrums?

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
NeBuchadenezzar
Galcase Limited
#12 - 2012-05-25 20:25:18 UTC
Clerify self entitled bastards, in this case please. I had no idea you are CCP employee, to whom this post was adressed to. If you can't type in a civilized way, I suggest lower your voice Cutter, because your post does not help alot here.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#13 - 2012-05-25 20:42:29 UTC
NeBuchadenezzar wrote:
Clerify self entitled bastards, in this case please. I had no idea you are CCP employee, to whom this post was adressed to. If you can't type in a civilized way, I suggest lower your voice Cutter, because your post does not help alot here.



Oh but it does help quite a bit. You see, several of the gm's created feedback threads specifically for this feedback and they have gone about locking these whine threads on a regular basis. So Cutter there was actually being quite informative and helpful by telling the OP to go to one of the feedback threads instead of posting something that will be ignored anyways.

Also, the OP posted on a public forum, and in doing so, will get public opinion. But then again you self entitled bastards to tend to think that the rest of us can't post our own thoughts on a subject.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
NeBuchadenezzar
Galcase Limited
#14 - 2012-05-25 20:58:52 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
NeBuchadenezzar wrote:
Clerify self entitled bastards, in this case please. I had no idea you are CCP employee, to whom this post was adressed to. If you can't type in a civilized way, I suggest lower your voice Cutter, because your post does not help alot here.



Oh but it does help quite a bit. You see, several of the gm's created feedback threads specifically for this feedback and they have gone about locking these whine threads on a regular basis. So Cutter there was actually being quite informative and helpful by telling the OP to go to one of the feedback threads instead of posting something that will be ignored anyways.

Also, the OP posted on a public forum, and in doing so, will get public opinion. But then again you self entitled bastards to tend to think that the rest of us can't post our own thoughts on a subject.



That was more precise and civilized, I give you that respect. Althought I find no meaning in quoting Cutter. I'm not a mind reader. Actually this thread was the first I laid my eyes on.
Shian Yang
#15 - 2012-05-25 21:01:05 UTC
So riya wrote:
Item hangar need open again and again after dock like the ship hangar click again and again f*** why the ccp want us spend more time with the inventory .. we want just play eve.. fly the ship... pvp ...but not playing with your new inventory everytime ..lost our time .... Give us back the old inventory PLZ .... or i can just say goodbye eve online


Greetings capsuleer,

I am reminded of an quote a grizzled old Matari pilot used when teaching us recruits which end of a Rifter pointed where.

Quote:
When people ask me "Plz" just because its shorter than "Please"I feel perfectly justified to answer "No" just because its shorter then "Yes"


I've always found that rather amusing.

Regards,

Shian Yang
Gonada
Fixers Corporation
Pillars of Liberty
#16 - 2012-05-25 21:12:35 UTC
The new ui works wonderfully I might suggest you upgrade your piece of blank computer though
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#17 - 2012-05-25 21:27:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Xercodo
NeBuchadenezzar wrote:
Im relatively new to EVE, played a few years. When I was born capsuleer, I almost instantly loved the game, that does not happen to many games...

These new changes, like the missile trails graphics, looks good, but it seems CCP hasn't thought how we, the players experience the changes out of a funtionality perspective.

1. The inventory, I say as everybody else - INVENTORY IS CRAP (notice the capital letters, it's enhanced in case you miss that sentence CCP)

2. The inventory is crap when one will salvage in, say a Noctis. When you salvaged 20+ wrecks and you have lots of containers floating with items in them, you must click EVERY WRECK one time AND +1 time in the new crappy inventory window - HOW ON EARTH DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENCE??

In the old inventory windows from wrecks got stacked - that was just perfect. Except for one thing,
- you could've changed that into a window that open ALL wreks, so that one can choose which items to grab from all wreks simultaniously (which is in range around you ofcourse).
-Or a funtion where ONE button opens all wrecks, which will spare our soar wrists (everyone will say EVE online is ergonomical, nifty isn't it?)

3. Now with the new trails on missiles - it DOES look good I give you that, but I cant see where im shooting, maybe its just me but I think that sux. I mean If one zoom out on your ship there is noway that you can see the trails, I mean...what's the point? Many players zoom out to get a better view or to make a movie. I cant see the good in changing missile trails If you can't make them more visible.

Show us some respect here please, we are paying YOUR salary every month CCP. I biting my tounge here not to say offensive things, that won't help anyone anyway but I do say that im frustrated you make changes, which have absolutely no sence.

We will play EVE online even if you won't change back to what it was, or into something funtional or well thought through. The question is for how long people will continue play it, since it will get dull and boring to go through hoards of tedious clicks.



Please, if you cant take suggestions on how WE the players want it, at least change the inventory back to what it was.


I haven't seen where the devs were disrespectful. Maybe ignorant to some after effects of the new UI but never disrespectful (unless they were deliberately trolling, in which case lawl).

As a software dev myself what happened with the salvage and looting is likely just a side-effect of the changed system. Of course it makes no sense, it wasn't designed that way. Regardless of whether they actually roll back or re-implement the old system (which they have already said in other thread that they aren't) or they fix the issues they current one has it's gonna take time so you might as well quit regardless if you can't stand the wait, I fail to understand how you could have possibly survived any skill training...

I do agree on the missiles, but tbh for me it's a nitpick. I'll have my fun zoomed in for now (love my rocket Vengeance, just finished training for T2 rockets today :D) and I'll politely back you regarding their visibility as a distance. It would be nice to have this back but it's fer from being a deal breaker.

Btw to anyone else whining about the station hangers, they already fixed that. Works fine for me.

+1 CCP: SiSi to TQ fixed hangers in stations remembering location
+1 : Recent patch keeps them open too
+1 : Recent patch lets us FINALLY rename POS structures that previously couldn't be
+.5 : Plans to implement a change for POS structure management in the inventory tree
+.5 : Dev Blog regarding other planned fixes and changes and several "feedback confirmation" posts

Just sit back and keep your eyes on the news feeds for new patches that might have fixed something for you, just give it a week.

Edit: I case you live in a hole: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72779

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