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Next On The UI Hit List: Invention? Please!
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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-05-25 15:58:05 UTC
First and foremost I would like to say I love the new UI. Takes a bit of getting used to, but such a huge time saver. All the people bitching, crying, and whining should just be ingnored, if you're too dumb to figure out how to use windows explorer in Eve well then you're too dumb to have an opinion that matters.

But now that you made the inventory all pretty and streamlined can we get the same love for the science and industry window? Currently it feels so 1990's, it totally needs a make-over. As it is invention/manufacturing is such a inefficient click-fest. Nearly everything is annoying about it, from having to individually deliver every order, to having to set up all 10 research and 10 manufactuer slots 1 by 1. If I am making 10 of the same thing at the same place, I want to set up 10 order at once or something. I am all for creating competition by making activities harder and more risky. But I am totally against competition created by poor mechanics/UI.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-25 16:03:33 UTC
Overview.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#3 - 2012-05-25 16:05:22 UTC
Nah cause people will rage over the change. Adapt or die has turned into Whine or Quit.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Aoki Kenzo
Apotheosis Enterprises
#4 - 2012-05-25 16:07:04 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
First and foremost I would like to say I love the new UI. Takes a bit of getting used to, but such a huge time saver. All the people bitching, crying, and whining should just be ingnored, if you're too dumb to figure out how to use windows explorer in Eve well then you're too dumb to have an opinion that matters.


And this is why we need the dislike button feature.
Zarific
Frekmacinations
#5 - 2012-05-25 16:11:45 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:


from having to individually deliver every order.



This is wrong. You can shift click al your orders that are completed and press deliver and it will deliver them all.

The new UI isn't horrible but opening it at a POS takes forever. It needs to prioritize or something. If I opened the CHA, load the CHA, and while I'm browsing what I want, open the rest of the entire POS or something. The new UI is just so damn slow.

But I do think I should be able to shift click 10 open lines, hit install, select 10 BPO's, hit quote, get a quote for those 10 and then accept it. There is no reason this shouldn't be how it works. Same goes for invention/RE.

Zar
Lexmana
#6 - 2012-05-25 16:25:12 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
First and foremost I would like to say I love the new UI. Takes a bit of getting used to, but such a huge time saver. All the people bitching, crying, and whining should just be ingnored, if you're too dumb to figure out how to use windows explorer in Eve well then you're too dumb to have an opinion that matters.

The dumbest people in EVE are those who think they know everything based on their own personal experience.
Vinndel
420 Enterprises.
The Initiative.
#7 - 2012-05-25 16:43:19 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
First and foremost I would like to say I love the new UI. Takes a bit of getting used to, but such a huge time saver. All the people bitching, crying, and whining should just be ingnored, if you're too dumb to figure out how to use windows explorer in Eve well then you're too dumb to have an opinion that matters.


Wrong, it takes forever for me and my corp to get anything done with my POS, I have 3 ship maintenance arrays a corp hangar and guns... new UI likes to load them all when I try open one... takes forever. I wouldn't mind the new UI if it wasn't for the pos lag.
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-05-25 16:49:30 UTC
Vinndel wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
First and foremost I would like to say I love the new UI. Takes a bit of getting used to, but such a huge time saver. All the people bitching, crying, and whining should just be ingnored, if you're too dumb to figure out how to use windows explorer in Eve well then you're too dumb to have an opinion that matters.


Wrong, it takes forever for me and my corp to get anything done with my POS, I have 3 ship maintenance arrays a corp hangar and guns... new UI likes to load them all when I try open one... takes forever. I wouldn't mind the new UI if it wasn't for the pos lag.


Yeah you are absolutely 100% correct. I thought I addressed that here, but it must of been in one of the other countless threads about the UI (which this wasn't supposed to be, but I guess thats my fault :P ). There are some issues with the new UI that should of been fixed before it went live, mainly with POS activity. CCP has already publicly addressed this issue and has said a fix is in the works. Would of been nice if it was fixed at launch but it wasn't no point in crying over split milk ya know? It's an easy fix I assume, and will probably be fixed pretty quick. Providing constructive criticism completely reasonable, especially when it is civil like your post. Demanding they revert it or 'you' will unsub is childish and dumb.
looMin uS
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-05-25 17:01:00 UTC
The windows functionality of the new UI is easy to get used to...it only amounts to +1 or +2 more clicks for every process. Also it takes so much screen you can't help but get used to it.

"It only amounts to +1 or +2 more clicks for every process."

"Also it takes so much screen you can't help but get used to it."

Roll
Robert Warner
Back Door Burglars
#10 - 2012-05-25 18:31:05 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:


But now that you made the inventory all pretty and streamlined can we get the same love for the science and industry window? Currently it feels so 1990's, it totally needs a make-over.



I prefer functionality over aesthetics when it comes to UI.

As a heavy trader I can assure you that the new inventory system is deeply lacking in functionality. Works fine for the mission running or mining player (with the exception of looting wrecks in space); but if you want to be able to organise items quickly, prevent them from becoming mixed up when you offload them from a jump freighter, and work with large windows where you can view both a container and your hangar at the same time, it proves to be about as functional as typing with your elbows.
Indeterminacy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-25 18:37:45 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
First and foremost I would like to say I love the new UI. Takes a bit of getting used to, but such a huge time saver. All the people bitching, crying, and whining should just be ingnored, if you're too dumb to figure out how to use windows explorer in Eve well then you're too dumb to have an opinion that matters.

But now that you made the inventory all pretty and streamlined can we get the same love for the science and industry window? Currently it feels so 1990's, it totally needs a make-over. As it is invention/manufacturing is such a inefficient click-fest. Nearly everything is annoying about it, from having to individually deliver every order, to having to set up all 10 research and 10 manufactuer slots 1 by 1. If I am making 10 of the same thing at the same place, I want to set up 10 order at once or something. I am all for creating competition by making activities harder and more risky. But I am totally against competition created by poor mechanics/UI.
Jebediah MacAhab Dallocort
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-05-25 19:39:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jebediah MacAhab Dallocort
Lucy Ferrr wrote:

Yeah but since you're so stupid you don't know how windows works in 2012, you probably wouldn't even be able to find a dislike button. To be honest I am amazed that you don't drown in your cereal every morning. Windows has been using Windows Explorer since Windows 95 for a reason, it's streamlined, user-friendly, and simple. Eve UI is so similar if you can use one you can use the other. Since you are crying I assume you can use neither, therefore you are dumb.


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