EVE General Discussion

Lets see if I understand correctly what you are trying to tell here: Options are things that are supported by developer. Modding is modification done by some 3rd party or user himself. If that definition is correct, then your last sentence should read "There's a reason why all software offers sensible amount of UI options; .... "

Oh and btw. the software that has no UI options are often the most powerful ones. I thought you knew.

I like the new inventory.

The main problem is they've tried to go with the standard windows explorer style directory tree on the left, with the selected folder's contents on the right.

The problem is, it makes moving stuff a chore, because while windows explorer benefits from a right click context menu with everything in it you need, Eve doesn't have that, so you still end up opening god knows how many windows, all with the stupid tree down the left hand side.

In windows explorer it's a simply case of : Select folder on the tree on the left pane, rightclick item on the right pane, select cut, select destination folder on the left pane, rightclick the right pane, select paste.

With Eve, you have to open two instance of each window, locate what you want in a messy, unorganised tree on the left that sorts by name rather than ship type regardless of what sort option you have set in the right pane on both windows, then drag and drop.

Whoever designed the inventory needs a slap across the face, and sending back to the drawing board.

Eve has always had a really simple interface for basic item management that was very easy to get your head around, now it's a total mess.

Don't fix what ain't broken guys, focus on fixing actual problems instead.

…at that point, we're not longer talking about programs, but about languages (and even then, they come with tons of options).

Somehow I doubt that most EVE players would want to code an EVE client of their own just to play the game.

Oh, and btw. I haven't come across a single piece of software that has no UI options.

would you mind explaining what the improvements are in your eyes?

also Verone your right, another problem with using an explorer layout in EVE in my eyes is that you can't open two seperate instances of it to move from explorer A to explorer B

The new inventory is great. Sure there are a few problems with it (mostly in POS mangement), but CCP has already addressed said problems and said a fix is in the works. If you have problems with the new UI beyond that, noone cares. If you are too dumb to figure out how windows explorer in Eve works well you're too dumb too have an opinion that anyone cares about. EVERYTHING you can do in the old system you can do in the new system. Dragging things 1/2" to your tree is much quicker than dragging them from one corner of the screen to another. The filters are great. How organized large hangers can get now with cargo containers is beyond awesome.

I would be curious to see what all these crybabies do in game. I wonder if they are mostly hypocritical nul-ies who tell carebares to adapt but then totally fail to do the same. Or if this is just all more carebare crying.

you haven't actually explained WHY it's better beyond saying if you can't use it your stupid?

you seem to be ignoring that if your in a station with a decent amount of ships and containers the list is that long it won't fit on your screen, which leads to a LOT of scrolling after dragging things that half an inch to your tree? unless you shift click to open another window and then your essentially doing the same as the "old" UI

the filters could indeed be great but they aren't there yet, i also love the m3 bar i think that's probably the best addition in my eyes, the value one is a nice indicator but can be wildly wrong on price so is largely useless and space consuming

and dragging things from one corner to the other is (i hope) a massive exaggeration? either that or you didn't optimise your old layout at all, with mine i rarely had to move things more than a couple of inches to move from my hanger to the corp one, or my cargo to an array. i'll accept you might have had to move things further, but i'll also point out that if you have much in the way of assets then while you aren't moving things "as far" it's much slower to do it due to scrolling

last thing i'll say to you (as i realise your a troll) is that first off this UI doesn't make things more organised at all, it just displays it differently. second if nobody cares why are there so many threads showing that people do indeed care?

You sir, are whats wrong with the EVE-O forums. OP has taken time to make a coherent, well written post, and all you have to say is "gtfo botter"? These forums used to have discussions, back and forths, stories, etc, but theyre degenerating into dime-a-dozen trash posts like the above. If you don't have anything to say, dont say anything at all.

As far as the UI goes, it needs tweaks, its unfortunate that these tweaks, which were glaringly obvious from its first day on the SiSi server weren't made prior to realease, but overall I think having a toggable "New UI On/Off" button would be a bad move for CCP. Fix what needs fixing, and call it a day. CCP is on the right track with changes like these, they just need to remember that, like OP said, they have a commitment to listen to player feedback (excepting lame trollers like the quote above), and seriously take this player feedback into consideration before rolling out major new features.

The framework behind it probably is. The actual UI as implemented is not.

unfortunately if the new UI was capable of doing what the old one used to then there wouldn't be people up in arms about it, the long and short of it is that right now it isn't, and until it is i believe the best compromise is to put the option in for both, something CCP seems completely unwilling to discuss