EVE General Discussion

The devblog from CCP Soundwave was and remains a damage control effort. The forums was (and is still) aflame with predominantly negative posts, which from a community standpoint, requires a certain amount of reaction from CCP - lest is goes out of control. The whole exercise is typically reactive, something which CCP is professionally very good at. They're a bit quicker on their feet now putting out fires after Incarna.

Then think on the silent players, whose anger right now is smouldering in silence, lacking the will to post a forum retort. Think about the feedback (whether heard or unheard) from other non-English speaking countries, which I'm sure there's plenty of non-English flame there. All in all, the UI feature in Inferno is a failure of epic proportions - both conceptually and implementation wise. No amount of silly depreciative remarks regarding "it's potential" or "get used to change" or "learn how to use it" matters one bit because the approach was fundamentally flawed from the start. For many professionals in the various industries, this epic failure would usually mean a major reprimand or being shown the door.

CCP is a game company, so the management attitudes there might be a bit looser.
Still, it's no reason to go looking for a bee's nest to stone. They lost a lot of goodwill from the players.

unfortunately a UI is not a mechanic. it's a feature. just like graphics, just like sound, and the mechanics BEHIND the UI wouldn't be changed any more than painting the wall would turn it from brick into cardboard. look at other MMOs where you can edit your UI, (unfortunately) WoW is a great example of this, you can customise anything you want and it DOES NOT CHANGE how the game functions. just looks

changing your windows scheme doesn't change the way that windows operates does it?
changing the look of the icons on your desktop doesn't make them work differently
changing the background and icons on your phone doesn't make it work differently either

see where i'm going with this?

and you have yet to make a reasonable argument as to why it is not feasable.

lol, you actually are waiting?

if Steve Balmer made a public statement apologising for the companies direction and then made numerous promises which he subsequently broke? sure why not

shouldn't somebody be held accountable for their actions? shouldn't a company's CEO be held to his word?

last time i checked being an adult meant taking responsibility for your actions and those you are responsible for. do you disagree?




why not, i'm working on the computer anyway, it's not like checking a forum thread every few minutes on a seperate screen is any hassle for me, just means i'm not watching CSI instead


*edit* also Shpenat i've noticed your all for dismissing me as a spoiled child, essentially saying everybody who doesn't like the new system should HTFU, asking if people have read the test thread and i have to ask

have you?
first page first POST go compare it to the "dev blog" that soundwave published and the 'bugs' that have been fixed already

you also haven't posted a single reason as to why an option between using either inventory isn't viable, or made any specific points as to how this one is better that isn't your opinion and is backed up by evidence.

also if you go back through my posts you'll see that i haven't insulted your stance or i'm being nothing but respectful to both you and anybody else who posts, except my first response to bootleg but trolls irritate me when they don't put any effort in

to avoid confusion here's the two most prominent ones



which has been confirmed as a bug



and patch notes say?

Patch notes for EVE Online: Inferno 1.0.2
Locked BPOs will now display correctly, i.e. be dimmed out compared to unlocked BPOs.

so looks like that's a bug as well

no they didn't at all ignore feedback from 3 weeks ago and push it out live still broken did they?

i'd be interested in seeing that. i'd also point out that they said the same thing about CQ and the ship hanger did they not? please check the post again, i added more to the bottom.

I disagree. This venture has fundamental design issues and somebody up the chain from the developers / coders really cocked it up.

tl; dr - This feature had to have been signed off on by, at the very least, middle management.

are you trying to say that i'm an alt? beyond me telling you i'm not there's little i could do to disprove it? besides isn't talking to yourself a sign you've lost the plot?

nah it's just another part of the meta game. Even I run with multiple forum alts. I'm going to wait and see if anyone else see's what I see.

very well technically you're right, but don't you find it interesting that things they are listing as bugs now they said were intended or flat out dismissed during the TESTING phase? surely that falls under poor communication and lack of player involvement - two things which CCPs CEO specifically promised to improve and in this case has failed, do you agree?

and i'm not trying to say CCP cannot use a new inventory system, far from it i've said to keep it in by all means, like i've said there may well be many people who love the new system - it is a shame very few are posting - and i've already exercised my right to stop giving CCP money, i'm also exercising my right as a customer to complain about poor service, CCP have not yet addressed it and as i'm still a customer till my subscription ends.

and truly i love this game, i have for over 5 years, i'm not trying to destroy it, or discredit CCP, i'm fighting to save it, granted i'm trying to save it for myself - so i'm not claiming to be altruistic at all

Don't drag him into this. We'll be here forever.