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Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#21 - 2012-05-25 09:37:29 UTC
At least have the decency to spell 'Bilderberg' correctly.
Andemnon Kohort
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-05-25 10:32:09 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
leviticus ander wrote:

basically, at this point, the internet is too well built up to be brought down by anyone, even Europe all co-operating and working together couldn't take down the internet,


Stopped reading here.

Europe and co-operating is a strong oxymoron.
We can't even co-operate at deciding if chocolate is made of chocolate or other assorted brown junk.


Dont worry, once Europe has finished back stabbing each others member states over the circling debt mountains, im sure they won't have time to worry about such things, even the chocolate related ones.. whatever is left of Europe anyway.. probably not much.Pirate
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#23 - 2012-05-25 10:38:43 UTC
Torneach wrote:
This is what happens when people forget that liberty is worth infinitely more than security.


Amen to that.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
BTL Thumps Up
#24 - 2012-05-25 10:43:10 UTC
Large Marg wrote:
With the Euro getting its junk pounded. European businesses getting beat into submission, and a big push for internet ID, are you still going to be able to play Eve or want to play Eve?
The storm is coming....

http://current.com/community/93784918_bilderberg-demands-internet-id-for-all-eu-citizens.htm?xid=RSSfeed
If you do not know who the Builderburg group is, you should.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18186972

Feels like Dune a bit, but instead of spice its the internet.
Who ever controls the internet, controls the world.

I thionk you should deal with it!
BTLs are getting expensive nowadays!

THUMPS UP IF BTL
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-05-25 10:53:10 UTC
Since some moths every single of my clicks is stored for at least 6 months, and so is every SMS or E-Mail i send or recieve.

Ad i don´t live in China, Uganda, or some other wired state in Africa, i live in Austria, in the middle of the EU. Can they go any further?

And, to make it clear i´m an average Joe, no crimes committed or planning to steer a plane into a skyscraper.
OmniBeton
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-05-25 11:39:13 UTC
Torneach wrote:
This is what happens when people forget that liberty is worth infinitely more than security.


Since it's the living who shape the future, It is better to be slave and alive, rather that free but dead.
Redlaw Ikaruga
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-05-25 12:07:18 UTC
Someone is forgetting the DOPA etc laws in america, if anyone is gonna "shut down" the internet it will start there.
Over half of ther EU/Asian DNS servers are owned by american companies aswell so still fall under those laws.
Yes EU is currnetly a **** hole but having a mountain of debts is better then having a entirely diferent planet for it (US)
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-05-25 12:32:46 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Considering the internet is just a bunch of private connections... it cannot be controlled. Try to control it and it moves elseware.

Worst case, we go back to how it was before the internet was so easily navigable, with everyone learning stacks of IPs to manually connect to.


Um...no. You've no idea how the internet works. Nor do you have a clue how government and private businesses work. Basically, government says "If you want to make money you will do this". Private businesses say "Yes, Sir". Granted large multinationals truly control governments so, if the governments want something like internet ID's to be implemented then it's only because those large multinationals want it.

With the ability to know exactly who you are comes the ability to know exactly what you're doing on the internet. This is big business' dream. So, why wouldn't they be pushing the government for it? They would, probably are. So, it will happen.

Don't ban me, bro!
Devious Relation
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
#29 - 2012-05-25 12:40:37 UTC
First ive heard about internet ID's. But hey i am "that troll living under the bridge".

If any government attempted to implament such a breech on our human rights - freedom of speach and information- im farily sure there would be an uproar, or maybe a mummble follwed by everyone using IP# masks IPNs ^^

Peronsaly I am outraged hearing about this, people in the past died for our freedom, and now people are slowly bit by bit removing and imposing on our freedom.
Hail Goddess
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-05-25 12:53:23 UTC
First of all. We don't have freedom. We have liberty. Please learn and know the difference. Interesting post.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#31 - 2012-05-25 12:58:08 UTC
Devious Relation wrote:
Peronsaly I am outraged hearing about this, people in the past died for our freedom, and now people are slowly bit by bit removing and imposing on our freedom.

People in the past also didn't have $1.69 six-pair socks from Walmart.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-05-25 13:10:13 UTC
Absolutely not.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2012-05-25 13:22:41 UTC
Already exists, more subtle, but does pretty much the same thing.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-05-25 13:23:43 UTC
I have all the spice and im coming for your internets

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Kestrix
The Whispering
#35 - 2012-05-25 13:27:49 UTC
We are doomed... DOOMED I say!
leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-05-25 18:52:46 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
leviticus ander wrote:

basically, at this point, the internet is too well built up to be brought down by anyone, even Europe all co-operating and working together couldn't take down the internet,


Stopped reading here.

Europe and co-operating is a strong oxymoron.
We can't even co-operate at deciding if chocolate is made of chocolate or other assorted brown junk.

that's actually why I said this. there's practically no chance of all the member states of europe working together, and them doing that would probably be the biggest single threat to the internet.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-05-25 19:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Large Marg wrote:
With the Euro getting its junk pounded. European businesses getting beat into submission, and a big push for internet ID, are you still going to be able to play Eve or want to play Eve?
The storm is coming....

http://current.com/community/93784918_bilderberg-demands-internet-id-for-all-eu-citizens.htm?xid=RSSfeed
If you do not know who the Builderburg group is, you should.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18186972

Feels like Dune a bit, but instead of spice its the internet.
Who ever controls the internet, controls the world.



Unfortunately because of many shïtcrap dudes internet it's more of a hyper bullies server than actually a place where you communicate with your friends and make yourself new ones.

-racism is all over the place, even in eve forums if you take the time to read some threads.

-bullying is not an exception but the norm

-cyber crime cost billions to citizens because there's no real laws or someone to make them be applied. In some extreme cases it does but those making it are seen like old west sherifs rather than people protecting your personal rights and dignity

The fact I have an internet ID? -I have nothing to hide so what risk am I taking? -none
However, cyber criminals of all kinds for sure WILL never want this.

How much of an internet bullie/criminal someone would be knowing at any moment he can get his ass kicked to jail because he's rights stop when someone else's start? -a little bit less I think

No need to continue with more examples

brb
Dapud
#38 - 2012-05-25 19:13:11 UTC
I blame Anonymous
Dapud
#39 - 2012-05-25 19:15:14 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
racism and bullying


Oh no, we better do something before someone's feelings are hurt!
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-05-25 19:30:49 UTC
I have a 17kbps connection, can I help?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
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