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Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
#41 - 2012-05-24 07:55:51 UTC
Tokra Kuha wrote:
I am a proud rookie member of the swarm, as for the kill board we where up against one hell of a corp, who in the end told us we had balls and honor. as for freddie, i was a 5 day old pilot and fought for the cause using every ship in my hangar and spending most of my wealth, both of which i was compensated for. your just mad you were killed and kicked.


Ahahaha! Fail member of a fail corp comes on board and yells at rookie pilot about how fail he is. The irony is so thick you could barely cut it with a circular saw.

We might just wardec you for the lulz, and to see how "honorable" you are. Twisted
Faith O'Siras
Silhouette.
#42 - 2012-05-25 08:16:26 UTC
I have nothing further to contribute to this thread as everything has already been said.

Welcome to Eve Online. Where in game events can suck and posting on the forums with your main about it makes the situation a thousand times worse.
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#43 - 2012-05-25 11:43:05 UTC
Freddie Nebail wrote:
I recently joined a rookie friendly corporation, And everyone seemed nice enough. Shortly after we got into a war, and i was told to join the battle, i refused as i was very inexperienced and didnt really know what i was doing. A couple days after my corporation asked me to join in with mission running, but after turning up, i was targetted and destroyed by about 15 members of my corporation. Was i in the wrong for not helping in battle, or should they have respected me for my decision being a rookie to the game?


Who is in the wrong? You are. If you join a corp they expect you, reasonably, to participate in corp activities. This includes PVP. If it is an important operation they are going to expect all hands on deck. Virtually every corp or alliance in eve will issue a CTA "Call To Arms" for important pvp ops to defend their home, to attack someone elses, or whatever their alliance goals are. Even new players can contribute in the ships that they can fly.

Showing up for money making opportunities and skipping on PVP ops is a common issue. Most folks resolve it by kicking the offenders out of corp or alliance rather than killing them but i wont judge them on their decision this time since i wasnt privy to the exact conversations that went on at the time they needed you for the PVP op.

At this point I would probably be looking for a new corp. Can you really trust them after they blew up one of your ships? Even if they say it is now over?
Domono
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-05-25 14:38:41 UTC
Well I don't believe you did anything wrong if your being honest. Good leadership could come up with something for you to do. Personally I would of told you grab your factions t1 EW frigate and a MWD and throw some cheap crap on it and follow some basic orders and you will be a help. Heres the Isk for it. Now lets blow some **** up!

Then if you said no, Id tell you "We'll I don't think this is the right place for you." *Kick Member*
voorsk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-05-25 14:46:12 UTC
The most important lesson you can learn in EVE is learning to lose the fear of death. By not joining in with the war, you indicated that you needed this lesson, so they gave you a lesson themselves! Sort of..
Gertrud ToD
Terrorists of Dimensions
#46 - 2012-05-25 15:11:55 UTC
there is only one way to learn fighting - by fighting.
refusing to fight means you don't want to learn and you don't want to pull your weight.
and asking as stupid as you did might inspire others to wardec
the corp just for the fun of it.
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#47 - 2012-05-25 16:42:50 UTC
You were wrong. You fight for your freinds or you gtfo. What did you expect? And not having experience is no excuse, a very cheap frigate with a scram a prop mod and a gun is all you need to help in a war. Anything less is cowardice.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Destro Darkstar
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-05-26 20:40:08 UTC
OP, here is a story similar to what you could have done, even with your total inexperience with EVE. This is totally stolen from SomethingAwful's EVE thread, which I recommend you do not go hang with them, as you will do it wrong and they will take all your stuff and humiliate you.

SA Goons Recruitment Thread wrote:
I was in a fleet earlier, my very first fleet.

I didnt have any clue what to do, so I just opened the fleet finder, joined a fleet called "VFK Defence fleet" and voilá I was in a fleet. Eventually I figured out that mumble ops 2 - not 0 which I had been in for 10 minutes - was the place to be for that fleet. I was flying one of my free "Powered by Theta" incuruses around (for which I can only online one of the guns and the salvager, because of the CPU requirements) and we started out by chasing a bunch of fast frigates around. Not really sure which ones, other than we were supposed to shoot the "sabers" first and the other ones secondly. It took like 30 minutes and we only killed a couple, but they were eventually scared off. I dont even think I managed to lock any of them.

Then after a while of listening to the guys on mumble talking about crazy ****, most of which I didnt understand at all, the guy who did most of the talking said (no idea who this was, the FC I guess) "everyone get to the 2R gate, 2R gate there is a guardian!". I was one of the first to arrive on the gate and immediately saw a red ship. At this point, my hands were literally shaking with excitement, and my overview was jumping all over the place, so I couldnt hit him with my mouse. This turned out to be lucky, because just when I almost had him targeted, the FC said "tacklers jump through the gate and get him on the other side".

On the other side, space was empty. People were talking on mumble while on the other side, "he is in half armor", "he is gonna jump" and suddenly the gate flashed. The FC started yelling "GOD DAMNIT IF YOU GUYS ON THE OTHER SIDE DONT GET HIM, I'LL KILL YOU MYSELF!" the red guardian popped out from nowhere and it was right next to me! In what felt like slow motion I ctrl-clicked the guardian (as well as the gate ) in overview and waited for the ticker to run down, 5,4,3,2,1.. and I hit my disrupter, while turning on the afterburner and feverishly clicking "orbit at 500" on the guardian. Immediately, his drones were on me, and started to tear through the shields and armor of my poor incurus but the gate was flashing and friendly ships were pouring through the gate. I died before the final shot on the guardian, but I'm convinced my little 5 day old toon, in a newbie frigate, was the one little thing that held him in place long enough for the rest of the fleet to come through and nail him for good. (the trophy of my amazing victory is here http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/559550).

I know the all the cool guys hate eve and hate logging in, but that was the most awesome thing I've ever done in a mmo or any game really and I'm having a real hard time keeping the pessimistic outlook up. Anyway, this is probably the 'spergiest post I've ever written, so sorry whoever got this far had to go through that I guess I'll regret it in 3 months when I'm old and jaded and hate looking at gates. Feel free to remind me how lame I once was when that time comes.


Thus, OP, you were wrong, those battle reports could have turned out different, had you participated, but you will never know, because you sat docked and said you "couldn't do anything to help"
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#49 - 2012-05-28 22:32:47 UTC
@ OP The lesson here is:

Kill your corp members before they kill you. Be sure to brag about it in C&P as well.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#50 - 2012-05-28 23:00:01 UTC
Refusing to help defend your corporation against aggression is just about the most unacceptable thing you can do as a member of a corporation. If you're not willing to even try and help people fight then you've got no business even being in a corporation in the first and you're going to find yourself perpetually being a whining victim in this game.

Also who the hell plays as a coward in a video game?
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