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Merbusent

Imperial Shipment

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 1

#1 - 2012-05-24 08:32:38 UTC

So I'm using this and am missing about 10% of damage from my usual ship but it seems pretty slow all the same...

[Rattlesnake, Rattlesnake fit]

Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Curator II x5
Garde II x5

So just wondering about any other thing's I need to know about drones.. are they as good as paper or any sort of modules that can help.. does the omnidirectional tacking computer work?

Mea Culpa. Shadow Cartel 4,407
Roime Mea Culpa. Shadow Cartel Likes received: 4,407	#2 - 2012-05-24 08:41:17 UTC Yes, I consider the Omnidirectional TC a mandatory module on any ship using sentry drones, preferably two of them. Sentries are like large turrets, they need a little help to actually hit anything. Sentry Damage Augmentor rigs are also good on sentry ships. .

Moryg H'qarr

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 3

#3 - 2012-05-24 08:45:33 UTC

With the drone dmg mods, I'm not sure if I'd even run the sentry rigs (stacking penalty + less bonus than the mods).

Apart from that. the downside of drones is their mobility. If you use the combat drones (ogres for example), they'll have a travel time between ships, reducing their dps. Sentries on the other hand have nice ranges, but have to be completely stationary, so it's a pain when you have to move 50km to the next gate or something like that. They are awesome where you don't have to move though.

Jackson Steely

Doomheim

Likes received: 17

#4 - 2012-05-24 09:13:50 UTC

I plugged your fit into EFT and saw you're tanking about 2k DPS against Sansha which I'm guessing that is the NPC you're missioning against? 2k Tank is absurd...dropping 1EM, 1 Therm hardener + the SBA will give you 693/836 w/ 5 minutes of cap (All V skills) Add 2 Omni's + Target painter imo TP will definately helps a lot with drones and you'll get the added benefit of them helping your torps too since you opted for that instead of cruise.

I use 3 Omni's and a TP on my Rattler and run gardes almost exclusively, it can pick off cruisers orbiting at 10ish km away so real decent tracking. It's still a slow missioning ship tbh. Once I can get around to throwing 3 of those new DDA's on it I'm hoping it will get better.

Best of luck.

Ireland VonVicious

Vicious Trading Company

Likes received: 407

#5 - 2012-05-27 09:04:44 UTC

Merbusent wrote:

Yes you need an omnidirectional drone mod!

This fit needs work.
Your looking at max posible dps and not if it can actually land on targets.

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Orlacc Likes received: 961	#6 - 2012-05-27 15:12:23 UTC Even with a tight fit and level 5 skills, a Rattler takes forever to do level 4 missions. Domi is cheaper and better. Rattler is for folks terrified of getting shot at. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."

The Scope Gallente Federation 1,705
sabre906 The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 1,705	#7 - 2012-05-27 15:30:56 UTC Don't use sentry rig, it stacks with dmg mods and is no longer worth it. Lose the overtank, put in at least 3 omni, not 1 or 2, but 3. Mandatory for sentry.

Mom's Friendly Industrial Company 9
Korbin Valenroth Mom's Friendly Industrial Company Likes received: 9	#8 - 2012-05-27 21:44:09 UTC \| Edited by: Korbin Valenroth Orlacc wrote: Even with a tight fit and level 5 skills, a Rattler takes forever to do level 4 missions. Domi is cheaper and better. Rattler is for folks terrified of getting shot at. This coming from a guy who has little robots doing his fighting for him. Still good advice.

FT Diomedes

The Graduates

Likes received: 2,921

#9 - 2012-05-27 22:30:23 UTC

I have used a Rattlesnake extensively in the past. I agree that it is a slow, steady ship. I don't usually believe in using Torps on the damn thing, but this fit would probably work pretty well. I usually just fit cruise missiles and laugh at how ineffective they are. No point in really blinging it out - it doesn't add that much effectiveness. I do believe in fitting T2 rigs where ever possible.

[Rattlesnake, Rattlesnake copy 2]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Damage Control II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Target Painter II

Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Large Core Defense Field Purger I

Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 201
Anya Ohaya School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 201	#10 - 2012-05-27 22:56:25 UTC sabre906 wrote: Don't use sentry rig, it stacks with dmg mods and is no longer worth it. Lose the overtank, put in at least 3 omni, not 1 or 2, but 3. Mandatory for sentry. Three? Are you trying to hit spider drones with them or something?

School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 170
Masamune Dekoro School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 170	#11 - 2012-05-27 23:19:44 UTC Anya Ohaya wrote: sabre906 wrote: Don't use sentry rig, it stacks with dmg mods and is no longer worth it. Lose the overtank, put in at least 3 omni, not 1 or 2, but 3. Mandatory for sentry. Three? Are you trying to hit spider drones with them or something? not empty quoting. 3 is ridonkulous

Dutch Squad 25
Unimaginative Guy Dutch Squad Likes received: 25	#12 - 2012-05-29 02:13:59 UTC the third gives like an extar 3-4km range. only useful if you really dont have anything better to put in the mid. aka navy domi/rattler i suppose.

Dato Koppla

Spaghetti Militia

Likes received: 939

#13 - 2012-05-29 02:35:12 UTC

I'd go for 3 as well if you can fit it while maintaining enough tank, 3-4km but in both optimal and falloff, as well as additional tracking, more tracking never hurt anyone, as well as allowing you to use Hammerheads on frigs very effectively. Rattler can safely tank with 1 X-Large and 3 Hards (or 2 and an SBA) without even a cap booster, huge buffer and awesome resists, and with cruise and some rigors, you can project around 900dps to 60km or 800ish to lock range with bouncers, and Cruise + Rigor is pretty reliable damage on anything cruisers and up and not effected by tracking, drones for everything else.

Hammerheads with 3 omnis can take out range frigs in 5 seconds from when they reach

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Imperial Shipment

Amarr Empire

Mea Culpa.

Shadow Cartel

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Doomheim

Vicious Trading Company

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Mom's Friendly Industrial Company

The Graduates

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Dutch Squad

Spaghetti Militia