EVE General Discussion

Pros: Some of the best work I've seen. These features feel complete, or at least they feel as though they were thought out enough for launch.

• The new Bombers are amazing
• Buffs to T1 frigs to bring them up to par with the Rifter, THANK YOU!
• Missile Effects are gorgeous and is some of the best graphics work I've ever seen.
• Kill reports: Again CCP Punkturis is the dev of my heart and thanks for adding in the links to them. Save fitting is amazing and I look forward to the related kills in the near future.
• LP store and other in-station UI improvements.
• Merc contracting! Finally
• The new inventory filters. (just make it so we can transfer them to other chars please and add drag and drop for modules).
• New War Dec system. Thank you for fixing a common griefing mechanic that was too easy. This game is supposed to be hard and when declaring war, it should be to go to war, not just a mechanic for easy ganks on unsuspecting, undefended haulers more challenging and expensive.
• Amarr ship V3. Yet one step closer to making eve beautiful. I look forward to Minmatar and capital ships. I'd really like the new lighting effects to be launched so please keep at this!
• Finally overhauling Faction Warfare. If it's good or not, time will tell but at least you're finally taking a serious look at this.

Change is good. Improvement is good. It shows with the new kill report system which is a direct improvement of the old killmail system. It shows that you can completely change what we were accustomed to working with and create a new interface we are comfortable using. Upgrades to the graphics on missile launchers is a very good example of change being for the better. The war dec system and LP store are awesome, and again demonstrate positive change.


Cons: These over shadow the amazing work listed above.

• If you log off safe in a pos, log back in, your e-warp can be scanned down and you can be tackled. This change is game breaking.
• The inventory system as a whole is incomplete and unfinished. (Video of how HORRIBLE it is.) (test server feedback warning of this.. thanks for ignoring us again CCP ) (compiled list of CCP responses)


1. When I minimize my inventory after undocking/jumping though a gate, it re-opens when I go through the next gate.
2. It doesn't remember my last opened windows or position when I re-dock.
3. I still cannot re-name corp hangars or silos in a POS.
4. No way to identify locked/unlocked blueprints or items in a corp hangar.
5. It doesn't remember my opened windows from my last dock. I need to re-find the hangar/cargo can where my, POS fuel for example, is located each time I dock. This is frustrating beyond belief.

The bugs surrounding the inventory system which were blatantly displayed, reported and begged for change or improvement and were ignored completely.

To the devs who work on this game, the people in the department who have introduced the new inventory have ignored player feedback with the response akin to what you have learned from Incarna. The inventory system has embarrassed your co-workers and let them down. If I worked along side you, I would be infuriated with the incomplete and unfinished work you have released to the public. You have let your team down. To the devs who listen, thank you for your hard work.

As a player, some aspects of this game prior to this expansion were already tedious. You have made some simple tasks I do on a daily basis more cumbersome. I didn't think this was possible, I have been proven wrong.


EDIT: Players please keep listing your pros or cons and I'll update this first post.

Amarr V3 is a con for sure. No more Golden Fleet.

Just the funky turd fleet now.

As far as pros go, the new missile effects are godly.

Heres some more bugs to add

-> When you login then logoff then back in again corp and local chat dissapear and cannot be openened.
-> Corp hanger in the pos is bugged says you need roles to open it even though we got roles.
-> Major lagg spikes!!

Seconding that turning the Golden Fleet into the Poop Blob is a major con for this expansion.

My love for shiny missiles overcomes all negativity I should have toward this expansion, however.

I hope you're right.

Otherwise all of CVA and Amarr FW will have to commit hari-kari in disgrace.

Tears are always a positive take back sir.

Me wish I could sneak in Zagdul`s quarters at night.

Dude.... your face..... Please hit it with a shovel.

I've noticed my torps can take upward of five seconds before they actually start toward their target. They spend a hefty chunk of time clearing my ship before they even try to find the thing I'm shooting them at.

Given that flight time heavily effects range, I'm thinking missiles may have taken an inadvertant hit. I have, however, only just started using them, so I don't know this for sure. If anyone could clarify, I'd appreciate it.

The missile effects are purely client side so far as I know. Their flight time was not adjusted.