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Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#121 - 2012-05-22 08:53:15 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:


a bunch of publords moaning on the forums and flooding the inboxes of every halfassed gaming media site?


Well, as I recall another bunch of pubbies went on crying no harm done and then the Mitty himself admitted he had gone way too far with it.
He even stepped down himself because of it. yet his fanboi's make his appology look fake by keeping on saying it was nothing.

You are actually doing the opposite of what he wanted to achieve with his appology, but your head seems to be up your butt too far to being able to see that.
Mittens manned up and said he's sorry and took the consequences, it's the 10,058 fanboi's that still keep crying about it.

So grow some pubehairs and man up like Mittens did. Move on and plan something new for people ***** and moan about.
Basic Autopilot
#122 - 2012-05-22 09:31:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Basic Autopilot
Monopoly -> High Prices -> Need More Money -> Buy More PLEX -> More CCP Profit

Am I right or is it not so simple?
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#123 - 2012-05-22 09:35:05 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:


a bunch of publords moaning on the forums and flooding the inboxes of every halfassed gaming media site?


Well, as I recall another bunch of pubbies went on crying no harm done and then the Mitty himself admitted he had gone way too far with it.
He even stepped down himself because of it. yet his fanboi's make his appology look fake by keeping on saying it was nothing.

You are actually doing the opposite of what he wanted to achieve with his appology, but your head seems to be up your butt too far to being able to see that.
Mittens manned up and said he's sorry and took the consequences, it's the 10,058 fanboi's that still keep crying about it.

So grow some pubehairs and man up like Mittens did. Move on and plan something new for people ***** and moan about.


Considering that you're one of those who constantly moans about Goonswarm and Mittens at every turn you should probably take your own advice.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
4IN1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#124 - 2012-05-22 09:59:53 UTC
Wait, wasn't Mitty later say its all some under-the-table interweb politics between CCP and god-knows-who?

Not that I have anything to complain about though, not in that position anyway.

CCP: Ambition but rubbish
Manar Detri
#125 - 2012-05-22 10:04:09 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
So a group of players looked at a sandbox and saw a way to profit that needed large numbers of people and a lot of planning and execution.

They then realised that as a sandbox they could do anything as long as it was inside the Eula so they did.


If you nerfed tech just because a group of people took the inituative then this would no longer be a sandbox.


Good luck to those Basement dwelliing, mountain dew drinking, cry themselves to sleep everynight idiots and everything they stand for.

They have generated more publicity for this game than anyone else for a long long time


Ccp did nerf titans cuz someone had too many of them, this wouldn't be any different Bear
Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2012-05-22 10:42:54 UTC
Ya know nothing is gonna happen at all
Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#127 - 2012-05-22 10:51:20 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Another fine example why the prices of jump&bridge mechanics are way too low.


Irony: Duder who has no clue about the cost of mobilizing caps & supercaps commenting on the cost of mobilizing said caps & supercaps.

Ronald Reagan: I do not like Sweden, they support communism. Minister: Sir, but Sweden are anti-communist, Sir.  Ronald Reagan: I do not care what kind of communists they are.
Skanky Pickle
Lords of More
#128 - 2012-05-22 10:53:37 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
So a group of players looked at a sandbox and saw a way to profit that needed large numbers of people and a lot of planning and execution.

They then realised that as a sandbox they could do anything as long as it was inside the Eula so they did.


If you nerfed tech just because a group of people took the inituative then this would no longer be a sandbox.


Good luck to those Basement dwelliing, mountain dew drinking, cry themselves to sleep everynight idiots and everything they stand for.

They have generated more publicity for this game than anyone else for a long long time


Ok while I don't disagree with the sentiment above I think it needs to be more evenly applied. The concept that a player works hard does the required research, operations takes accurate risks and now makes a large amount of money off it justifies the earning of the money is on that I think all players should apply when asking if something should be complained about/nerfed.

That being said, when the Incursion patch first came out it was not uncommon to see entire fleets whiped out while running a Vangard site, as time progressed and people put the time and effort into these events to come up with good fittings for running them to the degree that incursions became safer, then eventually a basic cash cow; the same people arguing to leave Tech alone are the same ones now saying "Hey we worked for this"

I find this interesting as someone that agrees with the incursions nerfs, because it shows how the sandbox argument only works in circumstances were people want it to apply.

Now before you dredge up your tired trolls and arguments about risk vs reward I understand exactly what the point and re-read the previous statement. I am just saying it reminds me of my children when they argue over a DS game,, "It's mine you can't have it, I want to play his, other child, "It's mine he can't have it" the entire time arguing that each others arguments are invalid.

Just hunting for some consistancy in whining I guess.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2012-05-22 10:57:33 UTC
Skanky Pickle wrote:
That being said, when the Incursion patch first came out it was not uncommon to see entire fleets whiped out while running a Vangard site, as time progressed and people put the time and effort into these events to come up with good fittings for running them to the degree that incursions became safer, then eventually a basic cash cow; the same people arguing to leave Tech alone are the same ones now saying "Hey we worked for this"

Who, exactly, are saying "leave tech alone"?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2012-05-22 12:37:23 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Skanky Pickle wrote:
That being said, when the Incursion patch first came out it was not uncommon to see entire fleets whiped out while running a Vangard site, as time progressed and people put the time and effort into these events to come up with good fittings for running them to the degree that incursions became safer, then eventually a basic cash cow; the same people arguing to leave Tech alone are the same ones now saying "Hey we worked for this"

Who, exactly, are saying "leave tech alone"?


I'm thinking he means the people who are saying "Dont replace the Tech bottleneck with another bottleneck."

Just FYI, because people seem to be forgetting this. We want Tech to be fixed, we've wanted it fixed for a long, long time. We just don't want it to be fixed in another stupid, easily exploitable way. This has always been our stance.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.
Serina Tsukaya
Dropbears Anonymous
Brave Collective
#131 - 2012-05-22 12:45:53 UTC
You want tech to be redistributed?

That would mean that the goons would simply take all the new tech moons in the other regions.

Want the amount of tech needed for your T2 production to be reduced?

The goons would find the next big thing and the same would happen to that substance.


Going to ask dad to fix a problem you can't find a way to solve through your own actions is exactly how a child behaves, now the question must be asked, how old are you really?
Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#132 - 2012-05-22 12:49:27 UTC
In a sandbox there's always a bigger kid.
In EVE there's always a bigger nerd.
Not a nerd? Geek with RL? Not able to play 23.5/7?
That's brutal virtual reality. Get over it.
Hedion's oracle
Naari LLC
#133 - 2012-05-22 13:08:26 UTC
"We won Eve" P Ok guys we all better quit now cause goons won eve Shocked. And you wonder why everybody laughs at you guys, but please procede making stupid statements, its entertaining Blink

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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#134 - 2012-05-22 13:14:41 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Skanky Pickle wrote:
That being said, when the Incursion patch first came out it was not uncommon to see entire fleets whiped out while running a Vangard site, as time progressed and people put the time and effort into these events to come up with good fittings for running them to the degree that incursions became safer, then eventually a basic cash cow; the same people arguing to leave Tech alone are the same ones now saying "Hey we worked for this"

Who, exactly, are saying "leave tech alone"?


You. And every Goon on this thread.

You want an unfair advantage that even you can't defend.

So you lie and lie and lie.

The idea that Mittani would have removed Tech Moons is a joke.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#135 - 2012-05-22 13:15:28 UTC
Serina Tsukaya wrote:
You want tech to be redistributed?

That would mean that the goons would simply take all the new tech moons in the other regions.

Want the amount of tech needed for your T2 production to be reduced?

The goons would find the next big thing and the same would happen to that substance.


Going to ask dad to fix a problem you can't find a way to solve through your own actions is exactly how a child behaves, now the question must be asked, how old are you really?


Well then, lets' try the experiment and find out.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#136 - 2012-05-22 13:16:45 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:


So you lie and lie and lie.

The idea that Mittani would have removed Tech Moons is a joke.


Didn't you know Moon Goo is just repackaged Snake Oil ?

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#137 - 2012-05-22 13:24:09 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:

You. And every Goon on this thread.

You want an unfair advantage that even you can't defend.

So you lie and lie and lie.

The idea that Mittani would have removed Tech Moons is a joke.

i pity you, really, and hope one day you get the help you need
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#138 - 2012-05-22 13:25:22 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:

i pity you, really, and hope one day you get the help you need


Oh, it's Miss 'Gloomy-Gus' Thing.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Iture
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#139 - 2012-05-22 13:33:14 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.

Seems reasonable.


NAPTRAINS != effort

Beside rules were biased - technetium redistribution.
Why tech inst available across universe and then try again at winning.



Do you have any inkling of what it takes to organize a naptrain of that size?

You have to think about many different influences to keep your combat force effective.

Cyno routes, these are hard to setup and keep fueled if you can't keep sov or just don't want too, like in the case of a deployment/roadtrip.

Now let's look at logistics, fuel, ammunition, ships and fittings. hundreds of cyno jumps, billions and billions and billions of isk has to be spent. Not to mention the hours that many ceo's, directors, and logistics oriented pvpers have to spend jumping and hauling all of that crap.

Keeping bittervets™ Interested in actually fighting the war your alliance leaders have decided is necessary, like controlling technitium.

Thats just normal subcap stuff, now if we look at having to produce super caps for the alliance to fight its war with, you have even greater issues of security and viability of the campaign as a whole.

Since super caps are incredibly vulnerable while in the cooker, you also have to be ready to defend your home at a moments notice.

that is a short list, and i'm probably forgetting a huge amount of things.
Hedion's oracle
Naari LLC
#140 - 2012-05-22 13:37:29 UTC
Sup B1tches wrote:
Ya know nothing is gonna happen at all

We know because CCP Soundwave will make sure Tec wont be redistrbuted. He knows Goons would have 0 chance of holding all the Tec at that point Blink

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