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EVE is hard. Some words of advice to the downtrodden.

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Benilopax
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-05-22 04:27:48 UTC
Rond Dorlezahn wrote:
Made it almost a page without some NPC Corp alt poser. P

Kudos to OP for a good post. Something like this should be the first thing Aura says to you ingame.


Naturally, looking at his posting history he's quite anti goon and anti anyone who says a good word about the goons.


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Benilopax
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-05-22 04:29:39 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Benilopax wrote:
I knew a troll would come out from under a bridge sooner or later. You don't have to be a friend of goons to adopt their attitude to new players being important.

Yes maybe I was an idiot in the past, but I have learned from my experiences and not become bitter about it. You seem bitter in your reply, but everyone has to have critics.

I don't think he's a troll, I saw him start posting on these forums a while back and he seemed like a hopeful and optimistic little care bear.

I think some time in between now and then we crushed his soul, and now all that remains is hatred, bitterness and an all consuming fear of goonswarm.


I quite agree, and I retract my troll comment from earlier.

He's definitely bitter tho, and needs to adopt the EVE is hard concept.

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Michus Danether
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-05-22 04:55:31 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:


I suppose that makes you an idiot. But why not listen to an idiot?

Especially when you are a Null Bear that warps to station whenever a non-Blue appears in system.

Watching Local IS HARD.

Watching Local is REALLY HARD.

So you are a GULLIBLE idiot.

I suppose I REALLY should listen to you now.

Please continue that "Good Friend To All Men" bs you have going there. The young'ns eat that BS up.

And suprisingly turns out to be a "Goon friend".


What happened to you that made you like this?
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#24 - 2012-05-22 05:17:40 UTC
Benilopax wrote:
EVE is hard. But not because of the game mechanics, or the design or anything the devs planned when creating this game. EVE is hard because the players make it hard, they always have and they always will.


So tell me, what range should i orbit at in a rifter using barrage ammo, should i have tracking mods or damage mods, active or buffer tank ?

In other words, i think the mechanics of the game do have a lot to do with making it hard.

Good post though.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-05-22 05:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
Benilopax wrote:

I knew a troll would come out from under a bridge sooner or later. You don't have to be a friend of goons to adopt their attitude to new players being important.

Yes maybe I was an idiot in the past, but I have learned from my experiences and not become bitter about it. You seem bitter in your reply, but everyone has to have critics.


So now you have accused me of being "bitter". God, you people really do talk like women.

A new group won't have Tech Moons and 100 man Jump Drive blobs that will curb stomp them anywhere in Low Sec, so your "Good Man" bs is just setting people up to be targets for your buddies.

AS YOU WELL KNOW.

Unless, of course, maybe they should join a Null Sec corp, you know, what you and yours want/demand others do.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-05-22 05:23:21 UTC
Benilopax wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Benilopax wrote:
I knew a troll would come out from under a bridge sooner or later. You don't have to be a friend of goons to adopt their attitude to new players being important.

Yes maybe I was an idiot in the past, but I have learned from my experiences and not become bitter about it. You seem bitter in your reply, but everyone has to have critics.

I don't think he's a troll, I saw him start posting on these forums a while back and he seemed like a hopeful and optimistic little care bear.

I think some time in between now and then we crushed his soul, and now all that remains is hatred, bitterness and an all consuming fear of goonswarm.


I quite agree, and I retract my troll comment from earlier.

He's definitely bitter tho, and needs to adopt the EVE is hard concept.


Unless you are a little baby Null Bear.

But continue talking about how docking whenever a scary red appears in system is HARD.

Continue talking about your 100 man jump drive blob bailing you out of being a total idiot who would insta-die in any other game is HARD.

Continue claiming getting all the tech moons for some reason is HARD.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-05-22 05:26:34 UTC
Iamien wrote:
Difficulty in EVE has a direct inverse relationship with how attached you are to your stuff.

See: tech alliances with awesome ship reimbursements, makes eve easy.


And here we see what skippees little post is about.

You should join the Goons, or Test, or some other Null group. In fact, mechanics will be changed till you quit or do so.
Zhihatsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-05-22 05:29:02 UTC
I just can't seem to report your posts fast enough, Jessie.

OP, that was a good post. WE congratulate you for playing and enjoying the game the way it was meant.

People without faces have no mouths with which to speak.
Rond Dorlezahn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-05-22 05:30:08 UTC
Are you having fun yet, Mr. Alt?

Shitposting is HARD. Roll
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-05-22 05:38:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Ten Bulls wrote:
Benilopax wrote:
EVE is hard. But not because of the game mechanics, or the design or anything the devs planned when creating this game. EVE is hard because the players make it hard, they always have and they always will.


So tell me, what range should i orbit at in a rifter using barrage ammo, should i have tracking mods or damage mods, active or buffer tank ?

In other words, i think the mechanics of the game do have a lot to do with making it hard.

Good post though.

you should orbit outside of neut, scram and smartbomb range - what ammo you use makes absolutely no difference at all (how about only one gun and some salvagers instead of the others?), you should neither use tracking nor damage mods but two nanofibers and one damage control/one overdrive, you should always use buffer tank.

unless you live in some mythical land of frigate 1v1s the answer is pretty clear cut and can be looked up easily.

frigate 1v1s are rock, paper, scissors.

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Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-05-22 05:46:38 UTC
Iamien wrote:
Difficulty in EVE has a direct inverse relationship with how attached you are to your stuff.

See: tech alliances with awesome ship reimbursements, makes eve easy.


Truth...

Lol...I like the potential chaos of Eve. I just want to watch things burn, even if it is my own ships...

Attachment to material possessions (even of the virtual variety) is what causes all the rage in my observation...

Free yourself and enjoy the destruction...

James315 for CSM 8!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#32 - 2012-05-22 06:05:25 UTC
This game is hard only because people bring their RL sense of entitlement here, and that sense of entitlement gets rolled up into a sock and used to beat them to a pulp.

Works as intended - now if only they would take the lesson back to RL.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#33 - 2012-05-22 07:34:33 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So now you have accused me of being "bitter". God, you people really do talk like women.

Being female, this does not really seem to have had the derogatory effect you may have intended.

Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Continue claiming getting all the tech moons for some reason is HARD.

I especially like the part where you own all the tech moons in... Oh wait...

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#34 - 2012-05-22 07:42:08 UTC
Well I ain't a Goon fanboi. But they have tactics that work and if you can adopt a working tactic to your own situation it doesn't matter where it comes from.

If you refuse to use tactics your opponent uses because they are your opponents then you are a far more serious fail. Specially if those tactics would save your arse.
Sup B1tches
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-05-22 08:24:06 UTC
Well i think 'Eve is hard' could be down to one thing; Eve universe is too big.

- Too many things to do
- Too many options for PVP
- Too much focus on making isk
- Too easy to lose said isk

As a consequence of that a lot of people are sometimes too caught up in personal things in Eve to band together and go fight the goons/enemy.

Not knocking anything here i am just observing what i have seen.

Lets look at things another way... what if:
- Ships never exploded, they just got transported back to your station
- Items were seeded automatically at set prices
- a lot of people were in easy reach for you to kill
- Automatic access to ships/mods/etc
- No need to take 30 or more jumps to get anywhere significant

One of these is Eve. The other is Sisi.

personally i think Sisi is WAY more fun than eve cause PVP is easier.
No'mak
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-05-22 08:44:41 UTC
Cheers OP, you summed up my thoughts exactly!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#37 - 2012-05-22 11:40:00 UTC
Which of you Goons touched the NPC alt inappropriately?

I wish to congratulate that person for providing a never ending source of shitposting, I've been using the methane generated to power my missile drives because it's better for the environment than the radioactive waste I was using before.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#38 - 2012-05-22 12:11:11 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Benilopax wrote:

I knew a troll would come out from under a bridge sooner or later. You don't have to be a friend of goons to adopt their attitude to new players being important.

Yes maybe I was an idiot in the past, but I have learned from my experiences and not become bitter about it. You seem bitter in your reply, but everyone has to have critics.


So now you have accused me of being "bitter". God, you people really do talk like women.

A new group won't have Tech Moons and 100 man Jump Drive blobs that will curb stomp them anywhere in Low Sec, so your "Good Man" bs is just setting people up to be targets for your buddies.

AS YOU WELL KNOW.

Unless, of course, maybe they should join a Null Sec corp, you know, what you and yours want/demand others do.


LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!

Welcome to EVE's very own garden of idiots. Here for your viewing pleasure is a prime example of an EVE idiot. Sexism, an inability to comprehend simple conversation and an almost pathological hatred of anyone who isn't "Just like them". See the idiot in his natural habitat, filling the EVE forums with their non-sequiturs, incomprehensible drivel and madman style ranting.

Jess, dude, you really do need to take a chill pill, take some time away from EVE and remember that its a game, it doesn't revolve around you and that EVE is designed from the ground up to be a cold, harsh place. If you want warm and fluffy, go spoon with a Bunny Rabbit in front of a roaring fire.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Benilopax
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-05-22 12:17:57 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Iamien wrote:
Difficulty in EVE has a direct inverse relationship with how attached you are to your stuff.

See: tech alliances with awesome ship reimbursements, makes eve easy.


And here we see what skippees little post is about.

You should join the Goons, or Test, or some other Null group. In fact, mechanics will be changed till you quit or do so.


Btw I live in high sec and have done for several years, I got bored of Null sec and it's politics.

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-05-22 12:34:19 UTC
EvE is what you make it. It can be harder it can be easy if you make the right inroads. Who you know is just as important as what you know. Arrow
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