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Is it fair? Tier 3 BCs
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ALL'EYEZ ON'ME
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-05-21 15:46:07 UTC
all of the tier 3 battle cruisers get 3 lines of "Role Bonuses" . That is other then the Tornado which only gets 2! Now I know the tornado doesn't need cpu to fire its turrets. but mabye they could give it a small dmg bonus or something to compensate?
ALL'EYEZ ON'ME
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-21 15:48:43 UTC
they get fewer bonuses in other areas also
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
#3 - 2012-05-21 15:52:09 UTC
If you're going to complain about that, what about the Oracle only getting the same BC bonus as role bonus (cap use reduction), thus leaving just 1 5% damage bonus? Roll
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-21 15:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: sabre906
Agreed, Tornado should also get 50% projectile cap usage bonus.

Winmatards, lol.Big smile

Think of it this way. Other races get 50% cap usage bonus, you get 100%.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#5 - 2012-05-21 16:17:06 UTC
ALL'EYEZ ON'ME wrote:
all of the tier 3 battle cruisers get 3 lines of "Role Bonuses" . That is other then the Tornado which only gets 2! Now I know the tornado doesn't need cpu to fire its turrets. but mabye they could give it a small dmg bonus or something to compensate?

Confirming that lasers need to use CPU to fire. I think you meant cap.

Tornado is fine as is. The bonuses do not make a ship good or bad. It's the collective effect of all of its stats, plus feasible fits and average pilot skill/ability that determines whether a ship is even perceived as good or bad. Tornado has its own niche among tier 3 BCs, fills its role quite well, and is flown by a lot of people, ergo it is balanced as is. The others need the extra nudge of cap usage bonus to be able to use the larger turrets without murdering their own capacitor.

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Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-05-21 16:24:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
The Tornado has a hidden 100% less Capacitor usage to fire it's turrets-bonus.

Seriously though, the less Capacitor usage isn't as much of a "bonus" on the other ships as much as it is a requirement for making them work at all. You'd never be able to keep up firing those guns with a Cruiser-sized Capacitor without it.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#7 - 2012-05-21 16:24:57 UTC
The Tornado does have three role bonuses, the exact same ones as all the other tier3 BCs. However, since its cap reduction role bonus is 0*0.5, they just hid it in the description to save on space.

Trying to give them another buff over all the other tier3 BCs is just stupid. Especially since the role cap bonus isn't a buff, it's just a "you can actually use your guns".
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-05-21 18:53:15 UTC
ALL'EYEZ ON'ME wrote:
all of the tier 3 battle cruisers get 3 lines of "Role Bonuses" . That is other then the Tornado which only gets 2! Now I know the tornado doesn't need cpu to fire its turrets. but mabye they could give it a small dmg bonus or something to compensate?


The third one is implied when you undock with: omgfpwnzor "I can mwd at 100km before you can take me in to half shields"

It's a hidden bonus, like a kinder surprise Lol

brb
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2012-05-21 19:18:50 UTC
You really, really want one? Ok, it can have the old destroyer role bonus. Not the optimal range one.
ALL'EYEZ ON'ME
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-05-21 22:25:09 UTC
I asked if its fair and should it get one... not all of your smart ass remarks... ty
Gypsio III
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-21 22:25:42 UTC
How about we cut the Tornado's speed by 20%, then give it a 5% / level velocity bonus?
Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#12 - 2012-05-21 22:44:32 UTC
Role Bonus: 50% Extra damage against Industrials, Transport Ships, and retardedly pimped active missioning Tengus.
Alara IonStorm
#13 - 2012-05-21 22:53:07 UTC
Once in a while you come across an idea so bad it just makes everyone on the forums kinda smile and shake there heads.
Velarra
#14 - 2012-05-22 00:57:42 UTC
New Merlin, Harpy, Ferox Rokh and Naga as icing on the cake are great reasons to train gunnery for Caldari. For once as Caldari i enjoy having gunnery trained.

Yet no DPS & Functional torpedo option for the Naga?

[*insert tears and much wailing here* ;) ]
Haulie Berry
#15 - 2012-05-22 03:27:50 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Once in a while you come across an idea so bad it just makes everyone on the forums kinda smile and shake there heads.



Indeed. It's rare to find the entire Eve community unified in this fashion. The OP should be proud - his stupidity has brought us all together.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#16 - 2012-05-22 03:32:39 UTC
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#17 - 2012-05-22 05:19:26 UTC
Naga was fun with torps. Probably my favorite thing I've tested so far

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
Valea Silpha
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-05-22 06:58:03 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Naga needs torps.


Quoting for truth.

Not saying the naga is bad as it is now, it has its uses for sure, but with torps... That was a mans ship. We already have a bucket load of snipers in game, and even though the hybrid buffs helped rails, its still not going to be as pwnful as arties. And with blasters its ok, but doesn't get tracking or the pure naked damage of the Talos. Torps made it awesome up close. A real brawler. Great idea, and it sucks it never made it in.

Oh and the OP made me giggle. No, the tornado is fine as is. And you sir, are ********.
Alara IonStorm
#19 - 2012-05-22 07:19:59 UTC
Honestly on the Torp question I like the idea of the split weapon Naga design and I think CCP should re-implement it.

With one minor amendment. Split Ships. Give the Naga a Torp spewing brother with a similar name like the Lamia.

Who says you can't have your cake and eat it too.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-05-22 07:29:17 UTC
Valea Silpha wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Naga needs torps.


Quoting for truth.

Not saying the naga is bad as it is now, it has its uses for sure, but with torps... That was a mans ship. We already have a bucket load of snipers in game, and even though the hybrid buffs helped rails, its still not going to be as pwnful as arties. And with blasters its ok, but doesn't get tracking or the pure naked damage of the Talos. Torps made it awesome up close. A real brawler. Great idea, and it sucks it never made it in.

Oh and the OP made me giggle. No, the tornado is fine as is. And you sir, are ********.


It would also complete the whole submarine-look that ship has going for it.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
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