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Nvidia 3D Vision + EVE

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Rheya Kelvin
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-10-03 16:08:42 UTC
So, it's been almost 6 months since CCP stopped 3D vision from working & we were promised it to be turned back on again Summer time / 'later in the year'

Could a dev please shed a little light on this....

For those of you that don't know about Nvidia 3D Vision, google it now.

Eve looks Stunning in 3D! enhances the gameplay and actual scale of the game so much more..

Also to the other 3D gamers out there if you know a way to force eve into 3D please post here...

Thanks
oematoema
The Muppet Show
#2 - 2011-10-03 16:15:14 UTC
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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#3 - 2011-10-03 16:16:40 UTC
I don't mean to sound like a downer, cause really, I'm not, but I keep seeing this topic come back every month or so. I had always thought that 3D was just a gimmick, is it really worth getting into?
Rheya Kelvin
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-10-03 16:19:52 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
I don't mean to sound like a downer, cause really, I'm not, but I keep seeing this topic come back every month or so. I had always thought that 3D was just a gimmick, is it really worth getting into?



Trust me, if you played eve in 3D you would never go back.... That goes for most games infact.

Nvidia 3D Vision is 10x nicer than the rubbish you get at the cinema + better than 3DTV's...

Look into it
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#5 - 2011-10-03 16:28:31 UTC
Never really been into 3D, but I'd definitely give it a shot with Eve if they ever put it back in...

Also, your avatar's boobs are redonkulous.
Rheya Kelvin
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-10-03 16:34:21 UTC
Baby ChuChu wrote:
Never really been into 3D, but I'd definitely give it a shot with Eve if they ever put it back in...

Also, your avatar's boobs are redonkulous.


Haha, it's a bought char...

Remember the tech jump from DVD to Bluray ?

Well in my honest opinion 2D to 3D gaming is almost the same as VHS to Bluray!

Battlefield 3 in 3D is going to be immense, find a friend that has Nvidia 3D vision and check it out...

No, I don't work for Nvidia, just really want CCP to support it again

Taedrin
Virtues Corporation
#7 - 2011-10-03 16:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Taedrin
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
I don't mean to sound like a downer, cause really, I'm not, but I keep seeing this topic come back every month or so. I had always thought that 3D was just a gimmick, is it really worth getting into?


It makes probing much easier and makes the tactical overlay much more useful.

EDIT: Aside from the above, it doesn't really do much for EVE, because of the lack of perspective. Most objects are so far away that you can't perceive any depth on them, and the UI elements are rendered in 2d, not in the 3d environment. This means that all of your brackets seem to be "floating" in the middle of nowhere when you turn the 3d on.
J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-10-03 17:22:29 UTC
Taedrin wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
I don't mean to sound like a downer, cause really, I'm not, but I keep seeing this topic come back every month or so. I had always thought that 3D was just a gimmick, is it really worth getting into?


It makes probing much easier and makes the tactical overlay much more useful.

EDIT: Aside from the above, it doesn't really do much for EVE, because of the lack of perspective. Most objects are so far away that you can't perceive any depth on them, and the UI elements are rendered in 2d, not in the 3d environment. This means that all of your brackets seem to be "floating" in the middle of nowhere when you turn the 3d on.



What about your CQ and later on the entire station. How nice would it be to see some depth on the station and maybe even see your ship in it's hangar in 3D. Would give ship spinning a whole new level.

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Rheya Kelvin
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-10-03 17:23:22 UTC
Taedrin wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
I don't mean to sound like a downer, cause really, I'm not, but I keep seeing this topic come back every month or so. I had always thought that 3D was just a gimmick, is it really worth getting into?


It makes probing much easier and makes the tactical overlay much more useful.

EDIT: Aside from the above, it doesn't really do much for EVE, because of the lack of perspective. Most objects are so far away that you can't perceive any depth on them, and the UI elements are rendered in 2d, not in the 3d environment. This means that all of your brackets seem to be "floating" in the middle of nowhere when you turn the 3d on.


I guess you haven't experienced pvp + capital fights in it then, sure not all aspects are working correctly but the sense of scale which eve really lacks was seen from the 3d.
N1gella Laws0n
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-10-03 17:27:55 UTC
This thread is now about people who want to watch films in 3D but won't visit a theatre, where EVERYTHING is 3D.
Grimpak
Manufactorum.
#11 - 2011-10-03 17:29:46 UTC
N1gella Laws0n wrote:
This thread is now about people who want to watch films in 3D but won't visit a theatre, where EVERYTHING is 3D.

and you get headaches just by watching the movie for 10 minutes.

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Tethys Atreides
The Audacity of Huge
#12 - 2011-10-03 17:31:09 UTC
Baby ChuChu wrote:


Also, your avatar's boobs are redonkulous.


Hence the thread about 3D...
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-10-03 18:22:18 UTC
3d is a gimmick. kinda like motion controls.
Maridius Kurvora
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-10-03 18:22:32 UTC
Agreed with the thread OP. I've been searching for threads referencing 3D vision so I can force 3D back on as Incarna seems to have forced it to be disabled.


Older threads (pre-Incarna) do mention that the Devs have 3D vision in the office and were checking its level of support now and again. The issues with the interface rendering in 2D was mentioned by the Dev and that it would take a few weeks of recoding the interface to get it to work, such dedicated time to sort the issue was not an option, which is fair enough.


The threads I have found refer to the interval setting being the reason for it not allowing 3D 120Hz. It would be great to hear from CCP what state it's currently in. If it's just a case of allowing us to disable the interval option in the config it might be a quick fix. If it's a case that the new Incarna engine does not allow it to work at all then I'd accept that answer as well as it'll stop me from trying to get it to work in the first place.


As CCP and Nvidia are partners and after watching the Fanfests it does seem that CCP are working with them to implement current and future Nvidia hardware, it makes it a bit more hopefully that Nvidia 3D support may become an option in the future.

Taedrin wrote:

EDIT: Aside from the above, it doesn't really do much for EVE, because of the lack of perspective. Most objects are so far away that you can't perceive any depth on them, and the UI elements are rendered in 2d, not in the 3d environment. This means that all of your brackets seem to be "floating" in the middle of nowhere when you turn the 3d on.


Agreed with Taedrin, there isn't a lot of scenery to give you a point of reference for depth, however, it's the ships that stand out. Even though 3D vision wasn't officially supported in the past the ships looked incredible. one of the best 3D scenes I've seen was a carrier undocking and nearly colliding with another carrier. You could finally see the scale of the ships as they slowly re-corrected themselves barely missing each other.

As for the headaches, if you have a low fps the flicker can cause headaches. I've had no issues with playing all day with 3D on, I don't wear glasses but the Nvidia ones are comfortable to the point where I don't notice them, I'm too lost in the game :P


tl;dr Would be great to have an update from CCP, if possible, it would be nice to be able to have the option to turn it on and off.
Maridius Kurvora
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-10-03 18:28:39 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
3d is a gimmick. kinda like motion controls.



Motion controls take effort and open spaces, personally I'd rather sit in my chair. Certain games in 3D are outstanding, Portal 2 on a 3D projector is like adding an additional room to your home, you can force the depth and convergence up unlike in the cinema where you have minimal depth set all the time.
Zagdul
Virtual Progression
#16 - 2011-10-03 19:08:27 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
3d is a gimmick. kinda like motion controls.



Till you walk outside and realize that it's here to stay.

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alwaysZeroHour
#17 - 2011-10-03 19:23:01 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
3d is a gimmick. kinda like motion controls.


Haters gonna hate..... dont post pointless crap.

3D is amazing, those that dont have it slag it, those that do know what I am talking about.
Ragnar256
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-10-03 22:12:27 UTC
Implemented properly, 3D seems to be quite a bit more than just a gimmik. I have the Nintendo 3DS myself, and when the 3D is implemented well, it makes quite a remarkable difference from my perspective.
Grimpak
Manufactorum.
#19 - 2011-10-03 22:26:14 UTC
alwaysZeroHour wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
3d is a gimmick. kinda like motion controls.


Haters gonna hate..... dont post pointless crap.

3D is amazing, those that dont have it slag it, those that do know what I am talking about.



I'll stop slag it once my head stops hurting.

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-10-03 22:35:46 UTC
I'd buy into it, when ATI have a comparable product and when it's again enabled for EVE

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