Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Many remember the old doomsday as a lack inducing, frame rate reducing mechanic that scaled horrifically with the number of Titans in the field was neither fair or balanced. To some extent I agree... However there was a point in between Enslaver detonating the first DD and there being +20 on the grid at any one time, which for me, was a golden age of fleet warfare.

The Golden Age(?)
Interdictors tailor made to withstand a DD in a world with no HIC's. Dual DD tanked Rokhs in the age were we still sniped. Thousands of drones and fighters removed at an instant in a universe that hadn't heard of fighter bombers.

What the Old DD's did for a brief time before extreme proliferation, was create a special environment, with a certain set of rules and tactics that players learned, planned for and adapted to.

The... "Press F1 for boomheadshot" mechanic that we currently have, which still scaled poorly, sourly lacks these things and seems to be there only to placate the ever increasing number of players and allainces who invested (hugely) with both ISK, SP and the obligatory titan alt. But with several titans on the field, the HIC to successfully tackle a titan ratio goes out of control. It also means dreads become nearly pointless, coffins. Sensor boosted titans have also been known to hot drop on small gangs fortehlols.


Bringing them back(?)
The old DD's should return. With modifications that include a GLOBAL system-wide cool down period between 60-30 minutes. This would mean that only one Doomsday activation from any titan could be fired per hour, in the same system.

This would mean that the titan pilots on the defenders side, WOULD NOW HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE (AKA GAME PLAY) on how and when to use there superweapon, EG, do it early before the attackers get their DD's on the field, removing light support... Or wait till super-carriers with fighterbombers are going hammer-and tongs on your caps before instantly removing several hundred thousand DPS worth of drones, fighters and light support...

In addition, a Titan should need to refuel before firing again, should be immobile and unable to cloak for half the duration of the cool down timer with turrets and missiles that track half as well as they do now. This still gives a role for multiple titans on the field, but to a much reduced extent than current.


But my Pubbies and there t1 cruisers and interceptors can't take part in fleets anymore
LOL

But seriously, yes they can. Just bring spares - their cheap and replicable and carriers can usually bring dozens of them - given that carriers no longer insta-explode, this is probably more viable than ever. In-addition, get them into Interdictors, teach them how to DD tank and they'll probably end up having a lot fun knowing that Titans and Super-Carriers (due to now cancelling each other out) are no longer the apex of fleet warfare and can be countered.


But what about lags and stuff?
What, the ability to instantly remove hundreds of fighters and drones wouldn't be a good thing for lag? Seriously though, this would have to be examined, but I don't think it would be as bad now, as it was, especially with re-enforced nodes and time dilation.

Obviously, Supercarriers should be prevented from carrying normal drones, and I'm sure there's a whole heap of other changes to 0.0 that need to be implemented on the whole. But to many, the deathray is an inferior game design mechanic that encourages no real game play and doesn't really fit with any coherent plan for what 0.0 fleet warfare should be.

And why do you care, anyways, you're in AHARM--all you have to do is tracking disrupt your own ships so they have 250km range and full damage with every gun. Go away.

I read your op and its still a dumb idea.

The goons right, go exploit in WH's noone cares for your opinion

Feel free to provide additional insight. Interested to hear why you believe the current DD's are a great idea.

Because clearly the solution to scap blobs is to obliterate sub caps with a single key stroke?

-1 internets for you sir.

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Then you dont understand how it works now. Supers arent always playing against capitals. They get dropped on subcap fleets and then the primaries are bonusships>logi for the DDs. Taking a big chunk out of an enemy subcaps damage resists is worth alot. DDs shouldnt be used against subcaps neither in direct nor AOE fire.

And they wouldn't in this implementation. Guardians, AHACs and T3's can tank more than the maximum AOE in this instance because there would be a limit on how many DD's can be fired in the system per hour. The main difference is now how the DD's now become great at dealing with fighters, bombers and drones and usage on the part of the titan pilot now requires a bit more decision making.

You can have super capitals or any big awesome cool ship, as long as there was a coherent plan in how the worked in a certain ecosystem.

At the moment, we're just wildly swinging from boost to nerf, without really taking the time to figure this out.

I see from where you coming. The only response would mean that one part could block whole system with its DD one per hour and other will have non. Still not an big deal or maybe it is... Dont know .. Considering perfect timing etc. would require perfectly predicable combat under predicable circumstances.