Ships & Modules

i think you're about as good at retorts as you are at math



so you get mods that are tank mods, and...mods that are useless in every situation unless you want to afk speed-tank as well

so yes you're just bleeting for more afk tank

as it turns out demolishing your terrible attempts to pretend you're not just looking for a buff to afk mining is what i do well

like all ships, the hulk is limited through slot layout and cpu/pg to have specific limits on what it can do

"afk mine in perfect safety" is outside those limits for a reason

you're fooling no one with your pathetically bad attempts to pretend a pg buff is anything but a pure "give me more shields im bad at this game"

it's a pain in the ass, fortunately most hulk people can't figure out how to tank a hulk at all

if a hulk is well-tanked i usually just gank the other guys in the system who aren't, no reason to slow down the murdering to kill the one guy who knows what a DCII is

FTFY. I like my idea better, it achieves the same result, and requires more user input and interaction (which is what a game is supposed to do, eh?)

Thanks for the feedback.

CCP has made Hulks a joke.

They do what the do well but have been made too easy to kill. Don't cry to me that it is a mining ship not a fighting ship. You don't have an argument or an IQ.

A Hulk tanks like a pinata.
A Hulk with full t2 defense modules tanks like a pinata with a condom pulled over its head.
A Hulk with officer/faction modules tanks like a pinata with a condom pulled over its head that has been ribbed for ganker's pleasure.


When I last looked, Hulkageddon has cost the miners of EVE 1.2 Trillion isk.


FIX IT CCP. This is bullcrap.

Are you serious? We're necroing this? Really?

Which brings us to the obvious solution: CCP needs to simply bring the price down on Hulks.

That way the gankers won't pee their diapers over the idea of a Hulk that actually takes more than two destroyers to gank.

The miners (who probably built those destroyers in the first place) won't end up bankrupted every time some ganker uses them as a punching bag to make up for their lack of a sex life.

It's really that simple. Just bring the cost of Hulks down in line to it's actual performance (read: very low). A Hulk currently costs more than your average battleship - twice as much in some cases. They average five times the cost of the Covetor that it's based off of, which is actually the safer ship to fly because of Hulkageddon. This is absurd.

CCP should simply bring down the number of specialty (read: moon) materials needed to build a Hulk and thus bring the overall price down. Because in reality, if it is going to be little more than a suped-up Covetor with a giant bullseye on it, then it shouldn't break the bank to replace.

The loss of a Hulk should be a setback, not the cause of people wanting to unsub. Just drop the build materials to a more sensible level. More people will be building them and the price will drop to something more balanced with their actual (pathetic) self-defense abilities.

Assuming you can fly all that, given that it requires a bunch of IV & V skills which many disposable gank-alts rolled up for Hulkageddon don't have.
Considering a 20 second response time for CONCORD, less if you're in a higher sec system, a Catalyst fitted for that much gank can put out ~14,000 damage in that time.
A well tanked Hulk sits at ~25,000+ EHP (with 80% resists to kinetic/thermal too)

Meaning that a well tanked Hulk is beyond a solo Catalyst, even with extreme fittings and a head full of ISK.


No doubt Catalysts can put out some amazing DPS for their size and cost. No debate about that.

The point is that many in this thread and others have been upset that a single destroyer can gank 'such an expensive ship' and the counterpoint here was to show that isn't possible unless you choose to allow it (by fitting no tank or by being AFK etc)


A well tanked Hulk requires gankers to bring friends - for extra DPS or to hold points etc. If 2 Catalysts and a tackle frigate suddenly show up on your d-scan, and you don't dock up your expensive gank-magnet, then I (and some other contributers) believe that you don't get the luxury of demanding nerfs/buffs/chees&whine.

Thanks for the extreme Catalyst fit though, I didn't think it could get up to nearly 800 dps Nerf The Catalyst!

Alot of the ganking issues would be solved if the Hulk pilots just tanked their hulks instead of flying them with 3 cargo Exspanders, and cargo rigs and hardly any tank in the mids as they dont have any CPU left.

Iv seen hulk take down 3 gank Cruisers at once (With concord help) leaving the field in armor, because it was tanked propper.

Its nice to have 17k or cargo space, but im pretty sure the Hulk wernt ment to be fitted like that. Its posible, but then you take the risk, for not tanking your ship.