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T2BPO why they should be removed and how.

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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#361 - 2012-05-12 15:04:49 UTC
Daxine Myth wrote:
Well at least T2BPO's are being removed from high sec which is a small nerf.


wich is also not true...lol...so many brewlar alts these days...

btw....have you noticed that Datacores did spike in price? How does it feel to see T2 BPO`s rather getting more and more profitable even after all your efforts and tears against them?

shar'ra phone home

RonPaul Rox
Prime Directive.
United Caldari Space Command.
#362 - 2012-05-16 00:55:31 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
Daxine Myth wrote:
Well at least T2BPO's are being removed from high sec which is a small nerf.


wich is also not true...lol...so many brewlar alts these days...

btw....have you noticed that Datacores did spike in price? How does it feel to see T2 BPO`s rather getting more and more profitable even after all your efforts and tears against them?



I dont like it

http://imgur.com/EGjYLSL

Stella SGP
#363 - 2012-05-16 03:03:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Stella SGP
Daxine Myth wrote:
Well at least T2BPO's are being removed from high sec which is a small nerf.

Wow... Just wow... Where do you people get these ideas from anyway? I would kill to have that stuff you're smoking.
0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#364 - 2012-05-20 12:46:44 UTC
Moving T2 production into null sec only is a great idea. It will allow T2BPO's to be lost via station capture/fire-sale, POS destruction and just general ship ganking. Currently T2BPO's are OP and they have zero risk of destruction while sitting in high/low sec stations, they are in long need of a nerf. Move t2BPO to null sec CCP Soundwave please!

Don't worry about Bears emo quitting once you nerf T2BPO as new invention accounts will spring up in there place. I shall contact my local CSM member and ask him to view this point.
India99
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#365 - 2012-05-20 14:18:11 UTC
look, this guy knows a CSM Roll
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#366 - 2012-05-20 15:27:26 UTC
0Lona 0ltor wrote:

Don't worry about Bears emo quitting once you nerf T2BPO as new invention accounts will spring up in there place. I shall contact my local CSM member and ask him to view this point.


This really is true. When I really found out about T2 BPOs in about my 2nd month in eve I really thought about quitting. I even let my account lapse for awhile. Finally I decided I loved eve more than I hated T2 BPOs even if they were a very nasty and public black mark on CCP/Eve Online. I came back. Two of my real life friends went the other road. When they found out they could never compete with a giant chunk of the older T2 producers they let their accounts lapse and did not come back.
Annolyn Thoth
Umbral Cabal
#367 - 2012-05-21 02:08:41 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
This really is true. When I really found out about T2 BPOs in about my 2nd month in eve I really thought about quitting. I even let my account lapse for awhile. Finally I decided I loved eve more than I hated T2 BPOs even if they were a very nasty and public black mark on CCP/Eve Online. I came back. Two of my real life friends went the other road. When they found out they could never compete with a giant chunk of the older T2 producers they let their accounts lapse and did not come back.


So you played eve for 2 months before almost emoragequitting over crap you apparently still don't understand.
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#368 - 2012-05-21 19:16:21 UTC
Annolyn Thoth wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
This really is true. When I really found out about T2 BPOs in about my 2nd month in eve I really thought about quitting. I even let my account lapse for awhile. Finally I decided I loved eve more than I hated T2 BPOs even if they were a very nasty and public black mark on CCP/Eve Online. I came back. Two of my real life friends went the other road. When they found out they could never compete with a giant chunk of the older T2 producers they let their accounts lapse and did not come back.


So you played eve for 2 months before almost emoragequitting over crap you apparently still don't understand.


another brewlar alt! =)

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#369 - 2012-05-24 19:16:24 UTC
Wingmate wrote:
Annolyn Thoth wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
This really is true. When I really found out about T2 BPOs in about my 2nd month in eve I really thought about quitting. I even let my account lapse for awhile. Finally I decided I loved eve more than I hated T2 BPOs even if they were a very nasty and public black mark on CCP/Eve Online. I came back. Two of my real life friends went the other road. When they found out they could never compete with a giant chunk of the older T2 producers they let their accounts lapse and did not come back.


So you played eve for 2 months before almost emoragequitting over crap you apparently still don't understand.


another brewlar alt! =)


Apparently any char who complains about how bad the T2BPO system is my alt. As it stands I have at least 10 accounts :) I'm glad I am the champion of the make EVE real campaign.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#370 - 2012-05-24 20:42:48 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
I'm glad I am the champion of the make EVE real campaign.

Ok then, call T2 BPOs franchises, make inventing and selling invented T2 items give you -10 sec status because you're a dirty counterfeiter Twisted
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#371 - 2012-05-24 22:49:48 UTC
Akita T wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
I'm glad I am the champion of the make EVE real campaign.

Ok then, call T2 BPOs franchises, make inventing and selling invented T2 items give you -10 sec status because you're a dirty counterfeiter Twisted


Naw, I call T2BPO's easy buttons which make EVE no more complex than your average MMO. Hey by the way when is CCP starting the lottery for the new T2 item BPO's? Oh they are not because T2BPO is the worst thing in EVE to date.

Remove T2BPO
Jajas Helper
#372 - 2012-05-24 23:13:23 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Akita T wrote:
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
I'm glad I am the champion of the make EVE real campaign.

Ok then, call T2 BPOs franchises, make inventing and selling invented T2 items give you -10 sec status because you're a dirty counterfeiter Twisted


Naw, I call T2BPO's easy buttons which make EVE no more complex than your average MMO. Hey by the way when is CCP starting the lottery for the new T2 item BPO's? Oh they are not because T2BPO is the worst thing in EVE to date.

Remove T2BPO



I think you got your wish... all my 32 T2 bpos are not showing up due to this new inventory.... you can pack your bags, my T2 bpos have been nerfed :(

Inferno do _stuff _with _stuff _to imitate the _stuff _you could do faster with the old stuff

-stuff-

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#373 - 2012-05-24 23:14:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
T2BPO is the worst thing in EVE to date. Remove T2BPO

You may sway some weak opinions by endlessly repeating something inaccurate, but that doesn't change the facts.
Facts are, the worst thing you can say about T2 BPOs is that they reduce the numbers of inventors that can simultaneously operate (by having T2 BPO owners always sell their stuff first), but at the same time, granting advantages to end users (cheaper unpopular stuff, and slightly cheaper stuff overall, compared to an invention-only landscape) and offering something that people with ludicrous amounts of ISK can invest in.
All in all, that doesn't even sound like a bad thing, let alone the worst thing in EVE to date.

Try to explain again what exactly is so bad about T2 BPOs (and NOT the lottery that distributed them), but this time, make a compelling argument.
And no, "guy who holds something worth 5 years of profit instead of selling it can make stuff cheaper than I can" is not a compelling argument for your case... if anything, it's a compelling argument for the reverse.
Also "but they got it unfairly" is not a compelling argument either, since most people DID get them fairly (by purchasing them from others that won them). I can agree that THE LOTTERY was one of the worst things that could have happened to EVE, indeed, but THAT has been discontinued. And THAT genie is out of the bottle with no way of realistically managing to put it back.

Removing T2BPOs does not reverse the "evils" of the lottery.
It only AMPLIFIES them.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#374 - 2012-05-24 23:30:39 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
This really is true. When I really found out about T2 BPOs in about my 2nd month in eve I really thought about quitting. I even let my account lapse for awhile. Finally I decided I loved eve more than I hated T2 BPOs even if they were a very nasty and public black mark on CCP/Eve Online. I came back. Two of my real life friends went the other road. When they found out they could never compete with a giant chunk of the older T2 producers they let their accounts lapse and did not come back.

Why can I and others compete and earn billions doing invention and you and your friends can' t compete? Do you refuse to make profitable items people want?
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#375 - 2012-05-24 23:32:41 UTC
An odd variation of the sour grapes syndrome would be my guess.
Haulie Berry
#376 - 2012-05-24 23:41:35 UTC
Between datacores being available for 25lp and 25K isk and the fix to decryptors, invention just got a sizeable buff*, anyway.




*Relative to BPOs, that is.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#377 - 2012-05-25 00:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:


Apparently any char who complains about how bad the T2BPO system is my alt. As it stands I have at least 10 accounts :) I'm glad I am the champion of the make EVE real campaign.


nope, but lets face it, there are not too many ppl that agree with you here in this thread, on that topic, and the fact that all your "fellow campaigners" had their posting premiere in this thread, do not use any punctuation marks ever, only spam and never rly discuss anything makes it kindoff obvious, doesn't it?

To hear twice the same extremly reasonable and sad story about two real life friends who quit playing the game, JUST because they thought that 1 of 120 diffrent ways to make money in this game, might be a bit unfair (it is not, but even if it would still be hilarious) proved me right at the end.

buff T2 BPO`s

shar'ra phone home

lol fourm troll
Doomheim
#378 - 2012-05-25 06:03:08 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
This really is true. When I really found out about T2 BPOs in about my 2nd month in eve I really thought about quitting. I even let my account lapse for awhile. Finally I decided I loved eve more than I hated T2 BPOs even if they were a very nasty and public black mark on CCP/Eve Online. I came back. Two of my real life friends went the other road. When they found out they could never compete with a giant chunk of the older T2 producers they let their accounts lapse and did not come back.

Why can I and others compete and earn billions doing invention and you and your friends can' t compete? Do you refuse to make profitable items people want?

How could you have made billions using invention, Brewlar said it was impossible, and Tau`s friends quit after 2 whole months because T2BPO's are just so profitable, so how did you make billions with invention? You must have a T2BPO hidden away that you are not telling us about.
Jajas Helper
#379 - 2012-05-25 08:25:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jajas Helper
every day i see some remove T2 bpo" crap post, i'm making 100mil on inventing, producing and selling T2 items with a single toon.

Someone should stop posting and actually invent things before posting crap.... though your crap makes me smile ^^

Inferno do _stuff _with _stuff _to imitate the _stuff _you could do faster with the old stuff

-stuff-

Lara Dantreb
Reisende des Schwarzschild Grenze
#380 - 2012-05-25 08:51:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lara Dantreb
Hi guys,

I want to advertise this auction :

T2 BPO E.A.N.M. II - a quite good print

1) buy the print
2) produce items
3) ???
4) make Brewlar unhappy !

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