EVE New Citizens Q&A

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I haven't really seen the need to join a player corp yet. In CAS I can participate in nullsec ops, incursions, mining ops, missions, and even the ocasional foray into a wormhole or 70-man nullsec blob, with no risk of war-dec griefing, no serious commitment to any one group, and no one area that I really have to stick around in. Plus there's a constant channel that's usually over 400 people available to talk in, alongside the various other CAS channels that players have set up, which are usually well-stocked with experienced players, most of whom I've become pretty good friends with. We even have some good frienemies in Agony and members of Freelancer's Union, both of which are based very close to our nullsec home.

Heck, there are even a couple of corps that people have set up for CAS members to put alts into, for POS's and whatnot.

So, since I have no interest in highsec pvp, why on earth would i want to leave this? If I want to talk to new people I can just go join a chat channel or two.






I think a simple solution to getting some people out into player corps would be to allow corporations to join NPC alliances, and give those corps some of the same restrictions as NPC corps. No incoming or outgoing wardecs, altered aggression mechanics, etc, but perhaps with the ability to own a POS and/or use an orca properly. Also the ability to set the corp tax, but perhaps keep a static alliance-wide tax of like 3-5% to prevent too many 1-man trading/POS/PI corps from joining NPC alliances just for the wardec immunity.

Lolwut? I don't mean to offend, but would you mind explaining how I'm missing out on 99% of the game's content? AFAIK, all I'm really missing is nullsec blobbing and alliance politics, neither of which are particularly appealing.

Our corp is based on heart. "We take care of you and you take care of us" are the own words of my old mentor, which I'm replacing today.

I don't believe I have forgotten to tell anything about the purposes of a corp.

This is largely why I'm still in a noob corp. I've received a ton of help from the older players, many of which are in this thread, and I'd like to think I've given a fair bit of help myself since starting.

Sensitive Dependence On Initial Conditions....

As a new player the conditions you initially encounter will shape your future decisions. For me I despise NPC chat because it is filled with people who Mission mission mission all the time and discuss fits endlessly its boring.

Joining a player corp will at least be something more interesting WHATEVER it is.

Your initial response to the corp you join will shape future decisions and if you don't take that step you wont know what those future steps are. If you were ripped off you might decide to turn the tables, if the corp was lame you might want to do a better job. If there were too few players you might want a large corp.

If you stay in NPC sure you wont lose this or that... but you also wont gain respect or trust and be handed things or much greater value. And it isn't just about ISK.

I personally have found it VERY difficult to find a corp to be a part of but that is my personality and not game mechanics. The corps I did join and lead were great experiences that were well worth the insignificant cost of playing EVE.

I recommend viewing the tax rate as proportional to the player count and that you are buying a ticket to the player base of that corp... so basically if the corp has a low player count there is no reason to pay tax to it unless you have grown to know the people and their plans and judge them to be decent plans.

Advantages a player will gain will depend on the style of play a subscriber enjoys.

When you form a corporation you have control over the direction of that corporation. You gain the advantage of operating in a competitive environment that will challenge you immensely and the gains you will enjoy are entirely dependent on whether or not you can make that corporation survive. Recruit, train, provide activities for the membership, direction, goals and challenges that will stimulate them to master the game and its many challenges.

As a CEO in a corporation you're going to be called upon by the nature of the game and the social environment to develop or utilize your skill to keep that corporation going.

Master these many challenges and you'll find that you achieve not only game mastery, but mastery over yourself as an individual. This confers advantages in life when it comes to dealing with challenging individuals, groups, cliques and some of the psychos and sociopaths of New Eden.

The lessons you'll learn about yourself and others will afford the assiduous and determined player the advantage of becoming a skilled manager of people.

When a player joins a corporation the advantages they accrue will be in no small measure due to their ability to participate, contribute and coordinate with others.

Those capable of participating, contributing and coordinating will find the experience rewarding; the advantages too numerous to mention; and the satisfaction of rising to significant challenges that the game and its environment presents will confer upon the dedicated and determined player with an equitable social demeanour the advantage of rich and varied human experience and interaction. Fun! In other words.

Overcoming the challenges of boredom that arise from mundane tasks, becoming socially adept at entertaining others and keeping them laughing; joking, contributing and persisting in the face of significant challenge will afford players the advantage of mining their own character and the riches to be obtained by mining the gems of character from that of their fellow corpies. This will develop the advantages that come from interacting to achieve game milestones.

Solo, non-team, players will find little advantage and feel restrained, constrained and restricted. Their game experience will feel choked and limited. They'll chafe because they are not social players or are unwilling to follow the direction of a CEO, directors and other members who are committed to any goals a corporation may posit. Some of you would be better suited to leadership positions and should have a shot at running their own corp. Others should just solo the game and not afflict social people with their personal burdens,insecurity and inability to interact positively with others.

Advantages gained are dependent on who you are as a person. Mechanical advantages are of little consequence.

Large and small corporations have advantages and disadvantages that anyone reading this can imagine, and if of the right persuasion, turn to their advantage, or suffer the perceived disadvantage if the social environment doesn't suit their own disposition, and inclinations.



Look for:

(1) The right fit - most of this game is about communicating with the same people for long periods of time so the first thing you should be aware of is the answer to this question: Do I like talking to these guys?

If the answer is unequivocally "yes" then you've got the most important aspect of social interaction covered. The rest should naturally fall into place.

(2) Is the corporation active? An active corporation has activities for its members, and provides opportunities for participation, contribution and coordination with others in common tasks that require teamwork. Such activities should fulfi the desire of the player to play the game the way they want to play it. But there are limits: if you are interested in pirate-play, then don't join an antipirate corp, there is no advantage to be gained from this unless you're the sort of person who thrives on bashing your head against another's just for the sheer pleasure of the resulting headache.

The result will be predictable, and there is little advantage to be gained from it.

Balanced activity in the corporation environment allows players to develop their own interests and explore the full experience EVE offers. And so long as this fits within the framework of the corporation and its guidelines then fine. If you overstep the corporation's boundaries then don't expect to be advantaged by the corp and members.

(3) corporations placing so many demands upon a player's game time that the player has no time to explore al the opportunities offered. Corporations need to support their members and are entitled to receive the support of the members in return.

In addition to what has already been mentioned by others in this topic be cautious:

(A) ...as a rookie about draining the time and patience of other more experienced players - don't suck up all their pay-to-play time with endless questions; seek balance. Realize that they're not there to hold your hand, but have other things to do for their own pleasure and if in positions of leadership have a role in actually leading others in the corp, something they can't do if you're constantly leeching their time.

(B) gratification - EVE is not a game that provides instant fulfilment or gratification when you're at the lower levels of game play and experience. This is not WOW. It's EVE. Instant gratification is rare and has to be developed and worked for.

(C) of your own impatience - it's a disadvantage in EVE corps.

Before this turns into a debate (dangerously close already) that will turn off a Trial Player, let's keep in mind POSs and Wardec's are not things a Trial user considering a non-NOC corp will need/want for a few months at a minumum, and that other content is experienced by Fleeting with friends who do have their own corps and some of us have alts in the alt corps of our NPC corp.

Tl;dr let's be realistic, CAS is unique and we're proud of it, I don't think the same can be said for Native Freshfoods :)

A new player if they want to learn the game should stay in their starter corp, find friends in and out of it and when they understand the advantage of moving into a Corp they can.

My Advice to new players seeking corporations is to find a corporation that truly sticks together like glue, don't get into a large corporation as they are mostly run like a business. Find a corporation of people who truly care about eachother. My corporation is like family to me, we have eachother's backs when need be, we correct eachother when one of us is doing something wrong, this bond even extends past EVE in many ways, We were genuinely concerned about a member who lived in New Zealand and when the earthquake in New Zealand occurred didn't get on for a few days, I don't think there was a day when someone didn't ask about any word on his condition when they first logged on. One of our members has been cut off by his family, to him we are family and to us abandoning him is not an option. It's something special when your corporation is like a family, especially considering that the members live in different parts of the world, thousands of miles apart, have never met in person and yet won't abandon eachother in times of need in EVE or in Real life.

that is my advice to new players looking for a corporation.