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"Social" mechanics question:
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Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#1 - 2011-09-18 19:52:44 UTC
According to the description, the skill "Social" gives a bonus to standings increases.

Does the skill also affect standings decreases, e.g. if you complete a mission for faction A (which is hated by faction B), does Social affect (increase) the standing decrease you get for faction B? Or do you get (standing increase * (1 + 0.05 * Social) increase for faction A and (- standing increase * derived standing modifier) for faction B?
James Arget
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#2 - 2011-09-24 07:32:49 UTC
This is a good question, and I would love to see a Dev response. If I ran missions, I would crack open my logs. Alas, I do not.

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Aethlyn
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-09-24 08:47:45 UTC
I'd say "yes", essentially increasing the loss as the loss is based on your standings gain.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2011-09-25 04:50:25 UTC
Aethlyn wrote:
I'd say "yes", essentially increasing the loss as the loss is based on your standings gain.
Yup.
Maethilar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-09-30 14:34:31 UTC
I'd say yes too, because I think that the standing loss is a % of the standing gain, so the greater the gain greater is the loss too.
Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-10-01 11:14:31 UTC
answer is "Yes"

because more standing you get with somebody, More standing you loose with somebody else..

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Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#7 - 2011-10-02 09:48:23 UTC
Kagan Storm wrote:
answer is "Yes"

because more standing you get with somebody, More standing you loose with somebody else..


Well, that depends on when the bonus is applied.

Say you get X% raw standings increase. If only applied to increases, you'd get X%*social_modifier for that faction, X%*social_modifier*derived_standings_modifier with its buddies, and -X%*derived_standings_modifier with its enemies.
Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-10-03 07:40:18 UTC
Exploited Engineer wrote:
Kagan Storm wrote:
answer is "Yes"

because more standing you get with somebody, More standing you loose with somebody else..


Well, that depends on when the bonus is applied.

Say you get X% raw standings increase. If only applied to increases, you'd get X%*social_modifier for that faction, X%*social_modifier*derived_standings_modifier with its buddies, and -X%*derived_standings_modifier with its enemies.





That is kinda pointless what you just wrote cause you are using a shitload of math for something you dont actual need it for....

Do missions or whatever you are doing and when you start approaching critical threshold of something you dont like stop... and do the opposite...

I never understood the math (acctualy i do but just cant be bothered to read it) and seriously concerning yourself with how much you gain as opposite you loose times divided by a pickle is pointless...

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