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Perseo Aidheron
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-24 16:38:13 UTC
Is there such thing here in eve can i change my char name in any way.
Liam Mirren
#2 - 2012-04-24 16:40:57 UTC
Only if you have a capitalisation issue and your char is very young or if someone petitions your name for breaking the Eula and the GM agrees. Other than that not happening, in EVE you live with the choices you make.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#3 - 2012-04-24 17:18:06 UTC
Perseo Aidheron wrote:
Is there such thing here in eve can i change my char name in any way.

Do you think I'd have a last name of Cabalander if I could change my name? Blink

This was a character I expected to biomass after the trial... 3 years ago.
J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-24 18:46:01 UTC
EVE actually expect people to think ahead before they do something, this includes picking your character name.

It's not allowed due to that in EVE you have to face consequences of your actions:

Say Pilot named "A" pisses of a lot of people and would be able to change his name to "B" then all the upset people won't know that "B" is actually "A".

So that's why names are fixed, if "A" pisses off many people he has to learn to live with a lot of gankers, mercs, wardecs on him at all times.

It's EVE, you deal with it or you don't. Hope you're the first.

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Veruca Salt
#5 - 2012-05-15 08:14:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Veruca Salt
Name change service should be avilable in a nine year old game. It's pretty standard feature for 2-3 year old mmo's these days.

Afraid that you'd have a badass change his name and disappear? Well, it happens in real life, with plastic surgery, which we also have access. *shrug* Maybe you'll be able to hunt him down when he got "formerly known as" tab, if you cry hard enough.

Just put a reasonable limits and prices, and we're good to go.
Xtrah
Ehefkae
#6 - 2012-05-15 08:18:39 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
EVE actually expect people to think ahead before they do something, this includes picking your character name.

It's not allowed due to that in EVE you have to face consequences of your actions:

Say Pilot named "A" pisses of a lot of people and would be able to change his name to "B" then all the upset people won't know that "B" is actually "A".

So that's why names are fixed, if "A" pisses off many people he has to learn to live with a lot of gankers, mercs, wardecs on him at all times.

It's EVE, you deal with it or you don't. Hope you're the first.


This^ The answer to this threadSmile
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-05-15 09:24:27 UTC
Xtrah wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
EVE actually expect people to think ahead before they do something, this includes picking your character name.

It's not allowed due to that in EVE you have to face consequences of your actions:

Say Pilot named "A" pisses of a lot of people and would be able to change his name to "B" then all the upset people won't know that "B" is actually "A".

So that's why names are fixed, if "A" pisses off many people he has to learn to live with a lot of gankers, mercs, wardecs on him at all times.

It's EVE, you deal with it or you don't. Hope you're the first.


This^ The answer to this threadSmile
Technically, in a proper database, a character (a record) is identified through a unique identifier, the name is just an element of the record and a table can be made to store the names that have been associated to a unique identifier so that's a moot point.
But I find it better that names can't be changed, helps spotting those who put little to no effort nor care in the creation of their toons and I find it often reflects well on the efforts and care the players behind are willing to put into the game. But that's merely a personnal viewpoint and Tau, I don't see anything wrong with your name ;)

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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-05-15 21:22:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
J'Poll wrote:
EVE actually expect people to think ahead before they do something, this includes picking your character name.

It's not allowed due to that in EVE you have to face consequences of your actions:

Say Pilot named "A" pisses of a lot of people and would be able to change his name to "B" then all the upset people won't know that "B" is actually "A".

So that's why names are fixed, if "A" pisses off many people he has to learn to live with a lot of gankers, mercs, wardecs on him at all times.

It's EVE, you deal with it or you don't. Hope you're the first.

I believe I saw CCP also explain it this way a few years ago. No new "aliases" to become anonymous. But actually, couldn't the game let you change your name, but 'tag' you forever with the old name? You'd still stay in people's contacts, and a search of your old name would still find you. And could have a list of former names show up like your employment history shows.
Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
#9 - 2012-05-17 08:44:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Zoe Athame
Telegram Sam wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
EVE actually expect people to think ahead before they do something, this includes picking your character name.

It's not allowed due to that in EVE you have to face consequences of your actions:

Say Pilot named "A" pisses of a lot of people and would be able to change his name to "B" then all the upset people won't know that "B" is actually "A".

So that's why names are fixed, if "A" pisses off many people he has to learn to live with a lot of gankers, mercs, wardecs on him at all times.

It's EVE, you deal with it or you don't. Hope you're the first.

I believe I saw CCP also explain it this way a few years ago. No new "aliases" to become anonymous. But actually, couldn't the game let you change your name, but 'tag' you forever with the old name? You'd still stay in people's contacts, and a search of your old name would still find you. And could have a list of former names show up like your employment history shows.


And if a new character takes your old name?

Then there are two people running around with the same name. You would have to have let one pilot reserve multiple names?

Tau Cabalander wrote:
Perseo Aidheron wrote:
Is there such thing here in eve can i change my char name in any way.

Do you think I'd have a last name of Cabalander if I could change my name? Blink

This was a character I expected to biomass after the trial... 3 years ago.


It it makes you feel any better I always read your name as "Tau Commander" until you posted this ^^
Toshiro GreyHawk
#10 - 2012-05-17 09:18:27 UTC


Yeah, you're not really going to get a lot of sympathy here on this subject.

It's bad enough - that people can have not merely multiple characters per account but multiple accounts - and thus hide their identity that way - but to allow them to take some character they've put a lot of work into - and change their name as well - no, it's bad enough as it is.



If you think you've got a case - then you could of course simply petition them and see if they said no. However ... they get a lot of petitions ... and ... if they're dealing with yours - that means they're not dealing with someone elses who may have a more serious problem.



Now ... don't feel all alone in screwing up a character name. I've screwed up three of them. Fortunately for me, I realized the mistake I'd made in naming the character shortly after creating it - and hadn't put to much time/money/effort into it - so I just bio massed them - that is - deleted the character.

Now - on bio massing a character ... IF ... you try biomassing a character with a bad security rating - just to get rid of the bad reputation they've accumulated or so you don't have to grind their security status back up - you can be banned for that.

If you just bio mass a new character with no change to their security status though - you won't have a problem.

In addition to bio massing some characters with unfortunate name selections - I've also created a character in one region of space because I wanted to check something out over there - and was to lazy to fly someone over there. I created a character with a name something like "BornToBeBioMassed" - checked out what I wanted - and then deleted that character. Here - it helped that the character was like - really ugly. I mean she looked like a cartoon witch.

My problem with creating characters ... is that I like doing it for some reason ... and have tended to accumulate more than I need ... on occasion ... I've always had a reason to create them ... but sometimes that reason was taken care of by their creation and then ... I didn't really have a job for them after that. *shrug*

Same thing with trial accounts. I've got at least one account now that I created as a trial ... but then really liked the character I'd created ... so I kept the account. I've made use of it but i really hadn't planned on creating another account there .... Of course ... you can also move those characters to other accounts and a lot of people have done that, consolidating accounts. If I hadn't found a use for that account ... that's probably what I would have done. Normally - you don't want to be creating accounts and THEN finding a use for them. It's much better to have a need - and then fill it - rather than create an account and then hope you find a use for it.

*shrug*

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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-17 10:25:39 UTC
Zoe Athame wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
EVE actually expect people to think ahead before they do something, this includes picking your character name.

It's not allowed due to that in EVE you have to face consequences of your actions:

Say Pilot named "A" pisses of a lot of people and would be able to change his name to "B" then all the upset people won't know that "B" is actually "A".

So that's why names are fixed, if "A" pisses off many people he has to learn to live with a lot of gankers, mercs, wardecs on him at all times.

It's EVE, you deal with it or you don't. Hope you're the first.

I believe I saw CCP also explain it this way a few years ago. No new "aliases" to become anonymous. But actually, couldn't the game let you change your name, but 'tag' you forever with the old name? You'd still stay in people's contacts, and a search of your old name would still find you. And could have a list of former names show up like your employment history shows.


And if a new character takes your old name?

Then there are two people running around with the same name. You would have to have let one pilot reserve multiple names?



That only works if you biomass a character.

As long as someone (even after 4 years of inactivity) still owns the character on a non-active account, you can't use that same name.

Also when biomassed and remade a new character with same name the employment history is cleaned out, so people will notice that it's a totally new character.

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J'Poll
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-17 10:29:53 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
EVE actually expect people to think ahead before they do something, this includes picking your character name.

It's not allowed due to that in EVE you have to face consequences of your actions:

Say Pilot named "A" pisses of a lot of people and would be able to change his name to "B" then all the upset people won't know that "B" is actually "A".

So that's why names are fixed, if "A" pisses off many people he has to learn to live with a lot of gankers, mercs, wardecs on him at all times.

It's EVE, you deal with it or you don't. Hope you're the first.

I believe I saw CCP also explain it this way a few years ago. No new "aliases" to become anonymous. But actually, couldn't the game let you change your name, but 'tag' you forever with the old name? You'd still stay in people's contacts, and a search of your old name would still find you. And could have a list of former names show up like your employment history shows.


Yeah, and any idea how long such a database would be after jsut couple of months.

Over 300.000 subscriptions to EVE * 3 characters on each account = close to a million characters in total possible.

Say everybody changes their name at least once in 3 months, means each 3 months the database entry grows with a million entries.

Good luck keeping that to work, specially if some people by accident picked a name that someone else used in the past.

Why just not spent about 3 minutes longer on your character creation and actually pick a name you like and agree with, YOU made the mistake of picking a stupid name, so you have to live with it. Why make it that your mistake is CCP's problem. If you can't even pick a normal name or deal with it that you picked something you're not happy with, EVE is not for you. Go back to WoW.

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Sebastian Hoch
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-06-04 02:20:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Sebastian Hoch
To be real the ability to lose your identity and shake off past crimes already exists by just selling your toon and buying another. Look at RMFHorus/A Puppetmaster. I think a lot of people start eve without any idea of what kind of game it is and don't even take it seriously. I know I fell into that trap. I installed Eve to test my new graphics card lol.

CCP should allow name changes for a $20 fee and keep old names affiliated with the account so its not a mechanism to be anonymous but truly a way for people who want a new name. The charge of real money would compensate CCP for coding the functionality and would keep name changes down to ppl that really wanted to make them. I'd be fine with setting restrictions on it. Such as you have to be at least one year old and can only change your name once per year/two years whatever. Like a remap.

Seb
Oraac Ensor
#14 - 2012-06-04 03:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Do you think I'd have a last name of Cabalander if I could change my name?

What's wrong with it? I just Googled it out of curiosity and found that it seems to be unique to your EVE character and doesn't exist outside the game, so there are presumably no unfortunate connotations.

Edit: CCP should not sell any kind of name change service. Players should not be able to buy the ability to hide their previous misbehaviour.
Sebastian Hoch
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-06-05 10:53:10 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
[quote=Tau Cabalander]
Edit: CCP should not sell any kind of name change service. Players should not be able to buy the ability to hide their previous misbehaviour.



Lol they already can. Anyone can swap out for a new identity on the character bazaar and it happens all the time today. Did you even read my post?

Seb
Luis Graca
#16 - 2012-06-05 11:34:06 UTC
I believe there was a time you could actually do that for $20 but not anymore
Emaleena Rogers
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-06-08 21:45:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Emaleena Rogers
Dont agree with name changes. If we take a game such as WoW for example, where you can change pretty much every aspect of a character save the class, it makes things worse. If the person wants to disappear he or she can. He or she can change their faction/race/name/gender/server/transfer to another account/ etc, with little drawback other than financial loss.

In EvE it's riskier. You do something bad? Your going to live with it.

Let's get to bashing Butts, as well as deeeez nutts.

Tessa Scyne
Shadowknight Securities
#18 - 2012-06-09 00:54:20 UTC
Veruca Salt wrote:
Name change service should be avilable in a nine year old game. It's pretty standard feature for 2-3 year old mmo's these days.

Afraid that you'd have a badass change his name and disappear? Well, it happens in real life, with plastic surgery, which we also have access. *shrug* Maybe you'll be able to hunt him down when he got "formerly known as" tab, if you cry hard enough.

Just put a reasonable limits and prices, and we're good to go.


Yes, this is true, but likewise if that persion vanishes they start a new life. They cant use thier old car or line of credit. They cant live in the same town.

They get a new face and a new life. They get a new car and a new house.

If you want to change your name to start a new life, you have to biomass and start over. If you want your assets, find a holding trust or contract them to yourself. Skills? Well there is a price to everything and that's your bill.

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#19 - 2012-06-09 11:17:30 UTC
Veruca Salt wrote:
Name change service should be avilable in a nine year old game. It's pretty standard feature for 2-3 year old mmo's these days.

Afraid that you'd have a badass change his name and disappear? Well, it happens in real life, with plastic surgery, which we also have access. *shrug* Maybe you'll be able to hunt him down when he got "formerly known as" tab, if you cry hard enough.

Just put a reasonable limits and prices, and we're good to go.


Yea, but in every other game your reputation doesn't matter. Here your reputation does matter, ergo, name changes are out.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#20 - 2012-06-09 11:19:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Sebastian Hoch wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
[quote=Tau Cabalander]
Edit: CCP should not sell any kind of name change service. Players should not be able to buy the ability to hide their previous misbehaviour.



Lol they already can. Anyone can swap out for a new identity on the character bazaar and it happens all the time today. Did you even read my post?

Seb


You can buy a new identity, or sell yours. BUT whomever buys your name is stuck with the reputation the previous player built. This is how it should be.

Personally, I think character selling should be nixed. I've a friend that has switched characters 6 times. Really pisses me off when I try to convo him and find some guy I don't know on the other end.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

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