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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#21 - 2012-05-15 21:01:35 UTC
FeralShadow wrote:
Ok let me clear this up right now:

None of us are playing "our game". We are all playing CCP's GAME!!!!!!

I can't stress that enough. We are playing CCP's Game how they intended it to be. It is not my game, it is not your game, neither of our professions are "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" because they're ALL meant to be played. They are also not Mutually Exclusive, either.

CCP gives us the tools, and says "Go have fun". Some peoples' fun isn't the same as others, and they conflict. That's just the way it is, and this isn't really your game, nor my game, we're both playing in the sandbox CCP made.

CCP are not a single unified entity with a specific coherent vision for their game, they are a company driven by profit and often run by people with no interest in the game beyond what they perceive as having the greatest chance to increase subscriber numbers.

Sometimes this leads to bad decision making, see Incarna for details.

It is not wrong of us to argue our points concerning how the game should be designed, we may very well not be listened to but discussing the pros and cons of specific game design philosophies is interesting all the same. And, with any luck CCP may even listen to some of us on occasion.

They certainly seem to have done so recently with the introduction of crucible, and inferno looks to be going in the right direction as well. Having a vocal community, and listening to them, is not a bad thing and should not be discouraged.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#22 - 2012-05-15 21:07:36 UTC
Arcticblue2 wrote:
I have been playing this game since 2004 and have always been a industrialist, I run missions when I'm bored of mining or producing stuff that others buy and blow up, this is how I like to play this game and I used to be a anti-pirate too when I found groups but to be honest that part of my gamestyle have now been gone for a long time.
I like EVE-Online and I enjoy the thrill of going through low sec or 0.0 knowing that I can get my ship blown up anytime ... it's that part of the game I like over other games for example.

However it's been a growing part of the game that low-sec and 0.0 players seems to not get enough players to their space now and I don't know they find too few "easy" targets maybe ? anyway these players seems to have taken their task to tell me that I play this game wrong, and it is their right to tell me that I have to play this game their way or not at all...
Can CCP accept that ?, and why do CCP accept that at all ?, is my money not just as good as low-sec and 0.0 players ?
Lets face it, you can't force players to low-sec or 0.0, most likly they will just quit the game and for me that's one of the choises I might do, I already does not play this game as much as I did back in 2004 and up to the T20 scandal and if CCP let the low-sec and 0.0 players dictate how I am going to spend my money to play their game then I just leave my 2 accounts here and find me a another game where I can play the game as I want to.

Don't take this the wrong way I like that you are not safe anywhere not even in High sec, but I am getting pretty tired of reading on the forum where low-sec and 0.0 players trying to tell me how I am going to play this game.
You won't manage to force non-pvp players to low-sec and 0.0 if they don't want to play that type of game ... then you loose customers.


More people like you need to be represented into the CSM. When the Goons came to attack Jita (something which people used to be banned for) there was no recourse for the industrialists who got ganked. They could either get remote reps or shoot them in retaliation. Corps cannot defend corp mates from gankers and the more organized null blob of Ze gewwwns took advantage of that.

The narrative has been taken over by the goons (due to influence in CCP ranks [**** proof if you didn't want rumors then you should have tried harder to prevent it CCP]). Tthere are a lot of things that should stay in highsec (like trit mining and t1 production). Gankers, being the monkeys that they are, saw the goons burn jita and now ganking in general has tripled in the past month. (source: hear say and map statistics)

Now, this is a sandbox, and people are free to do what ever they want. BUT when a ganker can pick who he wants to kill and anyone else in the belt that isn't the victim he is killing cannot defend the victim (they are in same corp) due to concord, then the sandbox is tilted HEAVILY in the gankers favor.

This is imbalanced and unfair to the game itself. Frankly, until this is fixed, it is rather embarssing to see a hulk creeped up by 3 destroyers and his corp mates just have to watch him die because they have no ability to fight off the attackers before concord arrives.

[Edit: new draft system saved my post! thx CCP]
Shian Yang
#23 - 2012-05-15 21:14:10 UTC
Arcticblue2 wrote:
Does it say in that word that I have to play YOUR game ? can I play the way I like it ? I honestly tought that since the game does have 3 type of space it also implyed that you could play many different playstyle...


Greetings capsuleer,

You will find a growing trend where capsuleers say:

"I don't want to live like you and forcing somebody to live like you is a bad thing; so you have to live like me"

You have just joined that trend. Congratulations on becoming what you rail against.

Regards,

Shian Yang
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#24 - 2012-05-15 21:14:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Simi Kusoni
Metal Icarus wrote:
Arcticblue2 wrote:
I have been playing this game since 2004 and have always been a industrialist, I run missions when I'm bored of mining or producing stuff that others buy and blow up, this is how I like to play this game and I used to be a anti-pirate too when I found groups but to be honest that part of my gamestyle have now been gone for a long time.
I like EVE-Online and I enjoy the thrill of going through low sec or 0.0 knowing that I can get my ship blown up anytime ... it's that part of the game I like over other games for example.

However it's been a growing part of the game that low-sec and 0.0 players seems to not get enough players to their space now and I don't know they find too few "easy" targets maybe ? anyway these players seems to have taken their task to tell me that I play this game wrong, and it is their right to tell me that I have to play this game their way or not at all...
Can CCP accept that ?, and why do CCP accept that at all ?, is my money not just as good as low-sec and 0.0 players ?
Lets face it, you can't force players to low-sec or 0.0, most likly they will just quit the game and for me that's one of the choises I might do, I already does not play this game as much as I did back in 2004 and up to the T20 scandal and if CCP let the low-sec and 0.0 players dictate how I am going to spend my money to play their game then I just leave my 2 accounts here and find me a another game where I can play the game as I want to.

Don't take this the wrong way I like that you are not safe anywhere not even in High sec, but I am getting pretty tired of reading on the forum where low-sec and 0.0 players trying to tell me how I am going to play this game.
You won't manage to force non-pvp players to low-sec and 0.0 if they don't want to play that type of game ... then you loose customers.


More people like you need to be represented into the CSM. When the Goons came to attack Jita (something which people used to be banned for) there was no recourse for the industrialists who got ganked. They could either get remote reps or shoot them in retaliation. Corps cannot defend corp mates from gankers and the more organized null blob of Ze gewwwns took advantage of that.

The narrative has been taken over by the goons (due to influence in CCP ranks [**** proof if you didn't want rumors then you should have tried harder to prevent it CCP]). Tthere are a lot of things that should stay in highsec (like trit mining and t1 production). Gankers, being the monkeys that they are, saw the goons burn jita and now ganking in general has tripled in the past month. (source: hear say and map statistics)

Now, this is a sandbox, and people are free to do what ever they want. BUT when a ganker can pick who he wants to kill and anyone else in the belt that isn't the victim he is killing cannot defend the victim (they are in same corp) due to concord, then the sandbox is tilted HEAVILY in the gankers favor.

This is imbalanced and unfair to the game itself. Frankly, until this is fixed, it is rather embarssing to see a hulk creeped up by 3 destroyers and his corp mates just have to watch him die because they have no ability to fight off the attackers before concord arrives.

[Edit: new draft system saved my post! thx CCP]
Pprotip: Sit a falcon in the belt. Jam the destroyers the moment they go GCC.

SuperProTip: Tell your corp mate to tank his hulk during hulkageddon, and not to mine AFK.

SuperDooperProTip: Take squad command and fleet warp your corp mate to safety.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-05-15 21:23:38 UTC
ccp:

people on forums are mean 2 me
plz help
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-05-15 21:39:35 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Arcticblue2 wrote:
I have been playing this game since 2004 and have always been a industrialist, I run missions when I'm bored of mining or producing stuff that others buy and blow up, this is how I like to play this game and I used to be a anti-pirate too when I found groups but to be honest that part of my gamestyle have now been gone for a long time.
I like EVE-Online and I enjoy the thrill of going through low sec or 0.0 knowing that I can get my ship blown up anytime ... it's that part of the game I like over other games for example.

However it's been a growing part of the game that low-sec and 0.0 players seems to not get enough players to their space now and I don't know they find too few "easy" targets maybe ? anyway these players seems to have taken their task to tell me that I play this game wrong, and it is their right to tell me that I have to play this game their way or not at all...
Can CCP accept that ?, and why do CCP accept that at all ?, is my money not just as good as low-sec and 0.0 players ?
Lets face it, you can't force players to low-sec or 0.0, most likly they will just quit the game and for me that's one of the choises I might do, I already does not play this game as much as I did back in 2004 and up to the T20 scandal and if CCP let the low-sec and 0.0 players dictate how I am going to spend my money to play their game then I just leave my 2 accounts here and find me a another game where I can play the game as I want to.

Don't take this the wrong way I like that you are not safe anywhere not even in High sec, but I am getting pretty tired of reading on the forum where low-sec and 0.0 players trying to tell me how I am going to play this game.
You won't manage to force non-pvp players to low-sec and 0.0 if they don't want to play that type of game ... then you loose customers.


More people like you need to be represented into the CSM. When the Goons came to attack Jita (something which people used to be banned for) there was no recourse for the industrialists who got ganked. They could either get remote reps or shoot them in retaliation. Corps cannot defend corp mates from gankers and the more organized null blob of Ze gewwwns took advantage of that.

The narrative has been taken over by the goons (due to influence in CCP ranks [**** proof if you didn't want rumors then you should have tried harder to prevent it CCP]). Tthere are a lot of things that should stay in highsec (like trit mining and t1 production). Gankers, being the monkeys that they are, saw the goons burn jita and now ganking in general has tripled in the past month. (source: hear say and map statistics)

Now, this is a sandbox, and people are free to do what ever they want. BUT when a ganker can pick who he wants to kill and anyone else in the belt that isn't the victim he is killing cannot defend the victim (they are in same corp) due to concord, then the sandbox is tilted HEAVILY in the gankers favor.

This is imbalanced and unfair to the game itself. Frankly, until this is fixed, it is rather embarssing to see a hulk creeped up by 3 destroyers and his corp mates just have to watch him die because they have no ability to fight off the attackers before concord arrives.

[Edit: new draft system saved my post! thx CCP]
Pprotip: Sit a falcon in the belt. Jam the destroyers the moment they go GCC.

SuperProTip: Tell your corp mate to tank his hulk during hulkageddon, and not to mine AFK.

SuperDooperProTip: Take squad command and fleet warp your corp mate to safety.


Wait. You are telling them how to play their game. Do not infringe on their right to be ignorant and impotent then whine about it not being fair.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#27 - 2012-05-15 21:47:04 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Arcticblue2 wrote:
I have been playing this game since 2004 and have always been a industrialist, I run missions when I'm bored of mining or producing stuff that others buy and blow up, this is how I like to play this game and I used to be a anti-pirate too when I found groups but to be honest that part of my gamestyle have now been gone for a long time.
I like EVE-Online and I enjoy the thrill of going through low sec or 0.0 knowing that I can get my ship blown up anytime ... it's that part of the game I like over other games for example.

However it's been a growing part of the game that low-sec and 0.0 players seems to not get enough players to their space now and I don't know they find too few "easy" targets maybe ? anyway these players seems to have taken their task to tell me that I play this game wrong, and it is their right to tell me that I have to play this game their way or not at all...
Can CCP accept that ?, and why do CCP accept that at all ?, is my money not just as good as low-sec and 0.0 players ?
Lets face it, you can't force players to low-sec or 0.0, most likly they will just quit the game and for me that's one of the choises I might do, I already does not play this game as much as I did back in 2004 and up to the T20 scandal and if CCP let the low-sec and 0.0 players dictate how I am going to spend my money to play their game then I just leave my 2 accounts here and find me a another game where I can play the game as I want to.

Don't take this the wrong way I like that you are not safe anywhere not even in High sec, but I am getting pretty tired of reading on the forum where low-sec and 0.0 players trying to tell me how I am going to play this game.
You won't manage to force non-pvp players to low-sec and 0.0 if they don't want to play that type of game ... then you loose customers.


More people like you need to be represented into the CSM. When the Goons came to attack Jita (something which people used to be banned for) there was no recourse for the industrialists who got ganked. They could either get remote reps or shoot them in retaliation. Corps cannot defend corp mates from gankers and the more organized null blob of Ze gewwwns took advantage of that.

The narrative has been taken over by the goons (due to influence in CCP ranks [**** proof if you didn't want rumors then you should have tried harder to prevent it CCP]). Tthere are a lot of things that should stay in highsec (like trit mining and t1 production). Gankers, being the monkeys that they are, saw the goons burn jita and now ganking in general has tripled in the past month. (source: hear say and map statistics)

Now, this is a sandbox, and people are free to do what ever they want. BUT when a ganker can pick who he wants to kill and anyone else in the belt that isn't the victim he is killing cannot defend the victim (they are in same corp) due to concord, then the sandbox is tilted HEAVILY in the gankers favor.

This is imbalanced and unfair to the game itself. Frankly, until this is fixed, it is rather embarssing to see a hulk creeped up by 3 destroyers and his corp mates just have to watch him die because they have no ability to fight off the attackers before concord arrives.

[Edit: new draft system saved my post! thx CCP]
Pprotip: Sit a falcon in the belt. Jam the destroyers the moment they go GCC.

SuperProTip: Tell your corp mate to tank his hulk during hulkageddon, and not to mine AFK.

SuperDooperProTip: Take squad command and fleet warp your corp mate to safety.


Uber-Professional-getting-paid-to-post-on-the-forums....-tip: Shut your whore mouth.

in 2/3 of those tips, the gankers will still score a kill 3/4 of the time.

The falcon is a good idea but it cannot jam as that is direct aggression and will get concorded unless the gankers are -10.0.

Corp members should be able to defend corp members in highsec gank situations.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-05-15 21:47:37 UTC
Arcticblue2 wrote:
I have been playing this game since 2004 and have always been a industrialist, I run missions when I'm bored of mining or producing stuff that others buy and blow up, this is how I like to play this game and I used to be a anti-pirate too when I found groups but to be honest that part of my gamestyle have now been gone for a long time.
I like EVE-Online and I enjoy the thrill of going through low sec or 0.0 knowing that I can get my ship blown up anytime ... it's that part of the game I like over other games for example.

However it's been a growing part of the game that low-sec and 0.0 players seems to not get enough players to their space now and I don't know they find too few "easy" targets maybe ? anyway these players seems to have taken their task to tell me that I play this game wrong, and it is their right to tell me that I have to play this game their way or not at all...
Can CCP accept that ?, and why do CCP accept that at all ?, is my money not just as good as low-sec and 0.0 players ?
Lets face it, you can't force players to low-sec or 0.0, most likly they will just quit the game and for me that's one of the choises I might do, I already does not play this game as much as I did back in 2004 and up to the T20 scandal and if CCP let the low-sec and 0.0 players dictate how I am going to spend my money to play their game then I just leave my 2 accounts here and find me a another game where I can play the game as I want to.

Don't take this the wrong way I like that you are not safe anywhere not even in High sec, but I am getting pretty tired of reading on the forum where low-sec and 0.0 players trying to tell me how I am going to play this game.
You won't manage to force non-pvp players to low-sec and 0.0 if they don't want to play that type of game ... then you loose customers.

that's a pretty poorly written letter

.
SeaBassSA
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-05-15 21:51:01 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
I have spent 8 years mining actual tears. And they are delicious.


Ain't no tears like (insert derogatory term of choice here) tears.
bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#30 - 2012-05-15 21:56:55 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
I have spent 8 years mining actual tears. And they are delicious.


Those aren't tears, that's the toilet bowl your drinking, gosh. Next time, tell your master he needs to put the toilet set down.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-05-15 21:58:15 UTC
oowwwnnneddd
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#32 - 2012-05-15 22:03:05 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Arcticblue2 wrote:
I have been playing this game since 2004 and have always been a industrialist, I run missions when I'm bored of mining or producing stuff that others buy and blow up, this is how I like to play this game and I used to be a anti-pirate too when I found groups but to be honest that part of my gamestyle have now been gone for a long time.
I like EVE-Online and I enjoy the thrill of going through low sec or 0.0 knowing that I can get my ship blown up anytime ... it's that part of the game I like over other games for example.

However it's been a growing part of the game that low-sec and 0.0 players seems to not get enough players to their space now and I don't know they find too few "easy" targets maybe ? anyway these players seems to have taken their task to tell me that I play this game wrong, and it is their right to tell me that I have to play this game their way or not at all...
Can CCP accept that ?, and why do CCP accept that at all ?, is my money not just as good as low-sec and 0.0 players ?
Lets face it, you can't force players to low-sec or 0.0, most likly they will just quit the game and for me that's one of the choises I might do, I already does not play this game as much as I did back in 2004 and up to the T20 scandal and if CCP let the low-sec and 0.0 players dictate how I am going to spend my money to play their game then I just leave my 2 accounts here and find me a another game where I can play the game as I want to.

Don't take this the wrong way I like that you are not safe anywhere not even in High sec, but I am getting pretty tired of reading on the forum where low-sec and 0.0 players trying to tell me how I am going to play this game.
You won't manage to force non-pvp players to low-sec and 0.0 if they don't want to play that type of game ... then you loose customers.


More people like you need to be represented into the CSM. When the Goons came to attack Jita (something which people used to be banned for) there was no recourse for the industrialists who got ganked. They could either get remote reps or shoot them in retaliation. Corps cannot defend corp mates from gankers and the more organized null blob of Ze gewwwns took advantage of that.

The narrative has been taken over by the goons (due to influence in CCP ranks [**** proof if you didn't want rumors then you should have tried harder to prevent it CCP]). Tthere are a lot of things that should stay in highsec (like trit mining and t1 production). Gankers, being the monkeys that they are, saw the goons burn jita and now ganking in general has tripled in the past month. (source: hear say and map statistics)

Now, this is a sandbox, and people are free to do what ever they want. BUT when a ganker can pick who he wants to kill and anyone else in the belt that isn't the victim he is killing cannot defend the victim (they are in same corp) due to concord, then the sandbox is tilted HEAVILY in the gankers favor.

This is imbalanced and unfair to the game itself. Frankly, until this is fixed, it is rather embarssing to see a hulk creeped up by 3 destroyers and his corp mates just have to watch him die because they have no ability to fight off the attackers before concord arrives.

[Edit: new draft system saved my post! thx CCP]
Pprotip: Sit a falcon in the belt. Jam the destroyers the moment they go GCC.

SuperProTip: Tell your corp mate to tank his hulk during hulkageddon, and not to mine AFK.

SuperDooperProTip: Take squad command and fleet warp your corp mate to safety.


Uber-Professional-getting-paid-to-post-on-the-forums....-tip: Shut your ***** mouth.

in 2/3 of those tips, the gankers will still score a kill 3/4 of the time.

The falcon is a good idea but it cannot jam as that is direct aggression and will get concorded unless the gankers are -10.0.

Corp members should be able to defend corp members in highsec gank situations.



Protip: you are free to attack players the moment they go GCC, and falcons have a very quick lock time. Even three thrashers cannot kill a tanked hulk before a falcon locks and jams them.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-15 22:10:43 UTC
Your super Falcon defence strategy is ingenious. On an unrelated note, have you ever considered joinind WI. by any chance?

Heh.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2012-05-15 22:15:58 UTC
SeaBassSA wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
I have spent 8 years mining actual tears. And they are delicious.

Ain't no tears like (insert derogatory term of choice here) tears.

Better than Gallente Ice during an interdiction.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#35 - 2012-05-15 22:22:11 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Your super Falcon defence strategy is ingenious. On an unrelated note, have you ever considered joinind WI. by any chance?

Sadly I do believe that the last time I applied to join WI I failed to pass the background check, something to do with a few of my characters being rather well known internet space ship douchebags.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Haas Tabris
Peace Love n Harmony
#36 - 2012-05-15 22:25:15 UTC
I agree with the OP. He should be able to play his style just like the goons want to play their style. And he should be able to mine low-end mins in high-sec and do some mfg'ing and trading. There's no harm in that.

The goons are just trying to **** in the sandbox and ruin it for everyone. It's that simple.

Hulkageddon strikes me as a poor attempt by the goons and friends to jack up the prices of low-end minerals. They might be doing this 1, cause they want to screw with all the empire players, 2, so that they can dump their low-ends and ships for better prices, and 3, so they can grief CCP for the upcoming technetium moon nerf.

The last one is especially sad since CCP are the guys who built the game. No its, not perfect, but we all wouldn't be reading/writing these posts if we didn't love it.
Shian Yang
#37 - 2012-05-15 22:39:29 UTC
Haas Tabris wrote:
The goons are just trying to **** in the sandbox and ruin it for everyone. It's that simple.


Greetings capsuleer Tabris,

Do you see the fundamental problem in your statement? You use the word "sandbox" to describe New Eden, but then denounce an Alliance for living within that sandbox in their way as it conflicts with the way you want to live.

Do you see the fundamental hypocrisy in that?

Regards,

Shian Yang
Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#38 - 2012-05-15 22:49:35 UTC
There is nothing wrong with ganking. Ganking is cool. People should be able to gank, and I look forward to more of it happening.

Ganking is not the problem. The problem is the attitude.

Helicity does an excellent job of walking the walk and talking the talk on that particular line of thinking. Whether or not she actually believes it, or if it is just a convenient and creative way to spout fiery rhetoric and motivating people to gank miners at the same time is anyone’s guess. But I digress.

Many people seem to think that miners shouldn’t be in this game, that somehow we are an aberration that needs to be rectified, either through exile (ragequit) or conversion.

As FeralShadow said, this is not your game. It’s not my game. It’s *the* game. CCP has created the ability for people to gank. Therefore despite all protests to the contrary, people can gank. Likewise, CCP created the ability for people to mine. Therefore, despite all protests to the contrary, people can mine. Mining and ganking are not accidental activities, a set of unintended consequences that resulted from an evolution of the game.

That means that we each must learn to live with each other. Neither miners nor gankers are ‘doing it wrong.’ One style of gameplay is not superior to the other.

An interesting note: when I first was looking at playing Eve when it first came out, I asked someone about it. They said that all you could do is mine. You could say that despite the existence of Exotic Dancers, mining is eve’s oldest profession. ;)

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#39 - 2012-05-15 22:56:18 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:

More people like you need to be represented into the CSM. When the Goons came to attack Jita (something which people used to be banned for)


When?

Cause the only time that I recall CCP stepping in to stop people from disrupting the activities of Hisec was when m0o's camp of Mara/Passari, and that came in the form of camp-busting devhax, not bans. And even then, nobody liked the idea of CCP messing with player created content like that (in a multiplayer sandbox, any interaction between players is content).

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Brother chookta
One Horse Trading
#40 - 2012-05-15 23:06:43 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Arcticblue2 wrote:
[quote=Vaju Enki]Say after me... "S-A-N-D-B-O-X".

To keep this post short, I will spell it out for you: allowing the emergence of risk averse, artificial dungeon raiding playstyles will result in a short burst of popularity, before eventually killing Eve in a sea of mudflation and a lack of interesting content.


Hang on, this type of playstyle has been a part of this game for at least 6 years, it's what me and my mates did when we started.

I confess I still do it far too muchStraight