EVE General Discussion

My point is, the "blob and get blobbed" tactics involving battle ships was and will always be dumb. Now it's getting expensive. That's good. Do you field expensive stuff unsupported by other ships in their necessary support roles and no intel? The way it was (or is for those who don't get the memo or still have a lot of ISK) is to just send in blobs of battleships and then decide if they have to run later, usually by being out-blobbed or finding out the hard way they are up against frigates that can deal lots of damage and outrun their turrets.

No, don't bring some destroyers or assault frigate support. No, don't use intel and research. Just get in the BS at the "spawn point" and when you get popped, respawn and get into another battleship and repeat.

Why not just play Call of Duty instead?

Now instead of "we want only l33t players with at least 50M SP who can fly all T2 equipped BS", perhaps those lesser skilled destroyer, cruiser, and frig captains would be of more use?
(Goons, as much as we are required to hate them, understand this).

Do armies take their main battle tanks, to the tune of tens of millions of dollars each, and just send them into the field without ground and air support? Do fighter-bombers just cross into enemy airspace without intel about the available AA in the field?

If main battle tanks cost only a million bucks or so, as well as fighter jets, and the crews respawned, perhaps so.

This game is simply becoming more of what everybody likes to fluff their e-peens over: a "hard game so HTFU or go back to WOW!!!1!!! Marsha Marsha Marsha I hate being a middle child!!!1!!emo rant rage!!!1!"

If not being able to be all twinked up bothers some people around here, we all know where WoW is, right?

**double post**

@Herzog

Yes, more ship hulls being used would be nice. But you gotta admit T1 cruisers are pretty lousy atm. If people blob with only one type of ship, its because it works.

Your missing the point, CCP wants your to purchases plexes, that is all.

The same principles apply to mudflation as apply to buying SP, instant gratification is generally bad. Players may believe they want instantly accessible ships, but when given them they tend to get bored as they have nothing left to aim for in game.

When a ship holds value, when it takes time to work for and you constantly have something to work toward... That is the "hook" that makes games like Eve addictive.

Instant gratification, whether in the form of free skill points or cheap "top-tier" ships, is generally detrimental to any game world. Plenty of MMOs have fallen victim to mudflation over the years, Eve was headed in that direction.

I for one am glad CCP is pulling us back from the brink.

The problem is that mudflation applies to PvP as much as anything else, and not just in the form of everyone having a battlecruiser handy when its needed.

You see it in the rampant super capital proliferation, the titan blob or t3 doctrine. This is not really something that is "noob friendly", nor is it something that makes for particularly interesting game play.

Making minerals more expensive may make it harder to buy battle cruisers/ships, but it doesnt make it impossible. And its always possible to PvP in cheaper ships to great effect, but what it does do very effectively is put a halt to the rampant super capital and titan production in game. Or at least slow it.

As for people that continue to use expensive ship doctrines or fleets regardless of cost, good for them. The new found rarity and value of their ships will doubtless make the game more exciting both for them, and for those attempting to kill them with cheaper more readily available ships.

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We must admit though that the destroyers were buffed and the sig penalty for MWD use with assault frigs was reduced. Those are steps in the right direction.

Whereas we have tier 2 and tier 3 battlecruisers, certainly this path is welcome with cruisers and I look forward to seeing what is dreamed up.

I must point out something strange though: the rise in prices is not as remarkable with faction and T2 frigates. The Hookbill, Comet, etc have not gone up in price, so this is certainly linked to material cost. One thing that people are overlooking is that in addition to Hulkageddon and the drone region nerf, there is also the Botageddon that occurred recently that is likely making materials scarce. Again, those ships whose high cost is coming not from materials but status as a faction or T2 ship and not having a high overhead in raw materials are pretty close to their prices as of a few months ago.

I especially like the part where you express confusion as to your opinions on the validity of my statement, before claiming that my statement is dumb.

Perhaps next time you should form an opinion before posting, preferably one backed by an argument of some kind.