EVE General Discussion

ok first of before anyone try to jump on me i have 12mil sp in gunney and kind of new to missles. so as a noob to missles read this first then add your thoughts. And yes my typeing suck move on.

First off t2 ammo for guns now in most case are way better then faciton ammo dmg output even with the - that come with them now with that said DEV's when it came to t2 missles and t2 torps as a whole you drop the ball now.
Here my thoughts on this.

T2 Rage torp in the market are under the heading Adv Anit-ship. Ok great for shoting players with well there not they suck and here why.
Useing the inferno type for stats.
T2 rage "anit-ship" torp.
explosion radius 650m
explosion velocity 61m/sec
dmg 576

cal navy torp
explosion radius 450
explosion velocity 71m/secm
dmg 517
t2 javelin
explosion velocity 71m/sec
explosion radius 450m
dmg 405

the above state are without skills.

now just looking at the Damage stat's great t2 Rage way better when in fact way lower dmg giveing the other 2 stats.
do to the fact t2 torp have around a 22% larger exp radius and slower exp velocity . when the torp hit the 22% of exp radius never touches the ship it hits and is wasted and given the exp velocity even a slow moveing bs takes much less dmg there allso.
in testing a t2 launcher fit fleet typhoon with TP fireing on a Fleet Tempest just sitting there the t2s do about 25% to 30% less dmg then the faction torps. WTH ya that right 25% to 30% less dmg then faction though to use the t2 take more time to learn.
Now for the really sad part the Javlein vs the same Fleet Tempest does more dmg then the Anti ship t2 Rage for the same reason and great range with the javelin witch i dont care about right now.
So in ending t2 rage torps are not i repeat not Anit ship there Anit-Capital ship and maybe anit pos. oh and dont forget to add t2 rage adds to your sig rad as well 4.5% per launcher and the javelin slows you down.

I thinks it time you fix t2 misslies like you did t2 gun ammo CCP.

Ok iam done here let the rage posting start.

Your grasp of written English is supreme.

yes its but my typeing skills are very low.

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all you have shown is half the reason why ravens are not fleet boats. Cruises are not omfg so much better....don't test that unless you really want too.

Torps only work on golems and bombers imo. Golem is tp bonused and can fit 2 tp nicely to lay some major paint down.

Stealth bombers work because of volume of volleys. 5+ bombers answer the call of a recon saying cyno lit to start the hot drop even with damage drop off the target they will hit is going to feel something. well that and the damage boost ofc to push it over normal launcher levels.

tl;dr: Torps are the new rockets.

That's pretty much it.

You should try a typhoon with t2 torps, it isn't too bad.

Fleet Tempest sig: 340m
TP: 30% increase to sig
T2 Rage Explosion Radius: 650m.

(340 * 1.3) / 650 = 68.0% max damage.

CN Torp: with 450m Explosion Radius
(340 * 1.3) / 450 = 98.2% max damage

Use more than one TP and/or a ship with a TP bonus. Otherwise, leave the Rage torps at home unless you're shooting at structures.

Eve missile damage formulas: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=901280

That isn't the only problem Torps have.

Light Missiles 42 km
Heavy Missiles 84km
Cruise Missiles 168km

Rockets 10km
HAM's. 20km
Torpedo's 20km

Another reason why torps are especially singled out is; they count as unguided missiles.

Which means the skill "Guided missile precision" doesn't affect them ( sig radius ).

Like making "Motion prediction" not work for large guns

Good point, change HAM's to 15km and it will be fine.