EVE New Citizens Q&A

Had he known any of those things before hand, we wouldn't be in this thread, now would we?

This + OP =

I whine because I jumped my Drake into LOW-SEC and lost it and now can't afford to replace it.

Your own fault here, it gives a warning pop-up on the gates. Almost infinite pages on the internet explaining the difference betweeen High-sec, Low-sec and 0.0 space.

There is something called noob haven and it's called HIGH-SEC.

Stop whining about your loss and HTFU and play EVE, if you don't know how low-sec works and how to try to prevent being killed on gates, you have a lot to learn. So why did you try to learn in your Drake, why not take a frigate to see how it is out there.

Ooh wait, you are someone who thinks EVE is all about ISK and safety, well wake up, it isn't.

You got quite a few good tips here already and I'll mostly leave it at that, but:



Before you jump into low sec for the first time a big fat window pops up that blocks your jump and tells you that you are about to do something dangerous and that you will probably die if you go on. This window asks you to confirm that you want to jump into low sec and gives you the chance to cancel the jump and stay in hi sec.

This window is also pretty intimidating.

So with all sincere respect, what did you expect to happen? I agree with you that gate camps are stupid crap and that it sucks you lost so much but it's not like this came out of nowhere, isn't it?




You already got this answered but I'll elaborate on it further anyway. There are different kinds of tackling modules and depending on how big and well organized the gate camp is and which kind of ship you're flying you have to approach those situations differently. Also your chance of survival varies accordingly from very good to certain death.

But since knowledge is power some words to tackling gear ranges:

Warp Disruptors have a range of 20+ km which can be boosted past 100 km. Their effect can e.g. be countered by 1 Warp Core Stabilizer.

Warp Scramblers have a range of 7.5+ km and can be boosted past past 40 km. Their effect can be countered by 2 Warp Core Stabilizers and additionally they shut your Microwarpdrive off.

Scripted Warp Disruption Field Generators have a range of 24 km up to 36 km and cannot be countered by Warp Core Stabilizers.

All those modules prevent you from warping away and need to have a lock on you. Hitting the warp button to escape is not enough as they will abort your warp once they effect you unless you already entered warp. But depending on your ship this can take from a few seconds to more than half a minute.


The module that slowed you down and put you to a crawl was a Stasis Webifier.

Stasis Webifiers have a range of 10+ km up to past 115 km and slow your speed 50% to 90% down. They do not prevent you from warping however.


A good gate camp will have specialized remote sensor boosted ships with gang link support that will catch you almost immediately even from great ranges. If you jump into one of those camps your chances of survival are very slim.

A lousy gate camp will only have on or two ships sitting right at the gate with a T2 web and disruptor, maybe also a scrambler once they got close to you. If you land into one of those camps burning back to the gate is often a good call.


Since they have to lock you first before they can tackle you small ships with small signatures which align quickly have an easier time to escape than big ships with big signatures which align slowly. Like your Drake for example.


Additionally in 0.0 and w-space you will encounter bubbles. Those are essentially like warp disruptors but cover a large area and can manipulate your warp exit point which will either drag you past your destination or pull you out early, depending on how it is set up. Warp Core Stabilizers won't help you with those either.

And then there are smartbomb gate camps (if you want to see those pass the low sec route between Jita and Rens through Rancer, good luck!).


But bubbles and smartbomb gate camps can be explained to you by somebody else.



Also the dude who told you that low sec is a good place for a 2.8m skillpoints newb solo Drake pilot is a moron. Don't listen to him again!

Hey, uh, J'Poll? You might want to dial it back a bit. The OP appears to GENUINELY be asking for help, rather than just bitching and moaning. I realise that's pretty uncommon, but lets not cloud the issue by flaming them, okay?

If you are just scouting out a path, use a shuttle or newbie ship. You can check for the presence gate camps quickly and easily. Even if you get caught in one and popped you are out either 12k isk or 0 isk.

It never hurts to do that prior to flying a more expensive ship into low. If you are worried about getting podded and losing implants, switch to an alt and scout a bit.

The more time you spend in low, the more you'll learn about the locals. I've been flying around low sec in Genesis for awhile and I know what days of the week tend to be slow, what times of day are busy...what corps live there and which ones are organized. And most importantly, which gates tend to have camps.

The best teacher is exposure. Grab a cheap ship and live there for a bit until you are comfortable enough to venture in there with bigger rigs.

NOTHING survives a gate camp.


(unless the campers really suck)

I was not thinking about lowsec. Sorry. Once again, lowsec is neglected. I will make amends by getting shitfaced drunk... oh wait...

The gate cloak timer is actually 60 seconds, which indeed gives you more than enough time to asses the situation, for the rest excellent post.

thanks for the correction. that explains why the 30 seconds feel so long

Does the use of EC drones cause your aggression timer to kick in? How about other damage or EW drones?

What if you just use regular ECM to break their lock? Does that trigger aggression?

TIA!