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Goons Broke the game and roaming PvP is dead - Nice One hilmar

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2012-05-14 02:38:42 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
hey wormholers how did goons rig the tengu market btw
that seems like a pretty big lapse in judgement in your part

Well obviously if our enemies love using tengus, we must make it painful for them <3

luv2cause market pain

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#22 - 2012-05-14 03:11:16 UTC
standard eve game play. nothing to see here move along.

I have more space likes than you. 
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#23 - 2012-05-14 03:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: No More Heroes
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
The truth is, CCP has failed to innovate content and boundaries and the players are able to optimize the existing system very quickly.

I wish CCP would focus on constantly expanding the sandbox, but instead they spend their time trying to refine core systems that will be optimized (manipulated) by the playerbase within 6 months.

Goons may actually be better game designers than the people on CCP's payroll.

Space is supposed to be vast, but Eve almost always feels small.


Uh players make the content and boundaries

Make your stories happen! <---ultimate innovation

- CCP Explorer // Software Director

and Eve is incredibly vast, it'd be 28 jumps for me to go from Deklein to Syndicate right now- and I would encounter an incredible amount of different organizations, alliances and personalities along the way. We traveled quite a few jumps the other direction tonight to go pick a fight and shoot some stuff. AND IT TOOK 3 HOURS

Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-05-14 03:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Warbird
Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-05-14 03:30:22 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

I think PL's small gang is 1 Cyno bait drake and 30 titans or something like that.

Confirming, maybe bait macharial
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-05-14 03:31:42 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
What really happened.


What's happening with Hulkageddon now

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#27 - 2012-05-14 03:52:21 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.

No way ~~

Are there bigger ships than their faction fit navy raven?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#28 - 2012-05-14 03:54:24 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.

No way ~~

Are there bigger ships than their faction fit navy raven?
Orca of course.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-05-14 03:59:02 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Uh players make the content and boundaries

Players manufacture the content, they don't make the content.

Players play within the boundaries, they don't define the boundaries.

No More Heroes wrote:
Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.

It isn't. It's a series of slightly different rooms that give the false perception of distance.

Smoke more dope.

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-05-14 04:02:23 UTC
c: The class system in EVE is so cute when it is not malicious. Nulsecers poking fun at highsecers poking fun at pirates. What a wonderful place! Everyone has their own stereotypes and jokes!

Ferox #1
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#31 - 2012-05-14 04:33:06 UTC
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
Smoke more dope.


PASS DAT ****

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-05-14 04:36:45 UTC
you forgot about OTEC

check out da prices on them jump freighters

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-05-14 04:38:54 UTC
i refuse to give in to otec i will fly stuff made of t1 minerals no matter how pissed my fc gets
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-05-14 04:46:40 UTC
your loss our gain

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#35 - 2012-05-14 04:51:26 UTC
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Eve is much bigger than the route from your lvl 4 agent to Jita.

It isn't. It's a series of slightly different rooms that give the false perception of distance.

Smoke more dope.
Or we could be occupying alternate dimensions of the same space. Once I encountered a large bubble camp on a gate in high-sec, which then shot off into space leaving me sitting there with puzzled expression on my face. I wasn't even smoking dope.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#36 - 2012-05-14 05:58:05 UTC
Jessica Sweetwater wrote:
So

Goons launch *burn Jita*, you kill off the drone regions (pretty much) - prices rapidly rise for everything and every player in eve gets shafted.

I.e -

To buy and fit a hurricane, full t2 now costs 100mil+ Pretty much
To buy and fit a raven pretty much costs 210mil
To buy and fit a tengu, sub systems the works 1.1bil pretty much

So... Nice ccp, u let one alliance muller the market.

So onto PI

In empire and low sec - pointless, in null sec - 400mil a month? pfft, whats the point

So onto roaming pvp

Our 5 man dessy gang went um... 26 jumps thru low sec, msotly dead and 29 jumps in null ending up in sclaidng pass - again pretty much dead

small gang pvp - never happens, u engaded 5v5 ends up with 5 v 30

Gang pvp - trying to force a fight

Pretty much every null sec region is dead, so unless u wanna do high sec grief crap, yah just dont get the fights


Tell me ccp and yes im ranting

At which point are you going to step in and sort this out?

Or u just gonna let eve die a slow death because u got dust coming?

above is facts, its that simple



It still costs fewer player-hours to equip the ships you quote than it did in 2006/7, back in the "glory days".

Cost isn't the issue.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2012-05-14 06:04:07 UTC
Fun Fact: Prices are now lower than before the mining buff.
hyhn
Iynx Teledyne Armory
The Chogo Ri Commonwealth
#38 - 2012-05-14 06:13:10 UTC
I just have to say --- this is music to my ears. This is the eve that we need and deserve. Prices are high enough that the risk adverse pilot is the wiser pilot. There are consequences to your actions now. Mine in a stupid fit ship in a belt -- lose a stupid fit ship. PVPeeee in a tier 2 t2 fitted battleship --- buy another plex.

Eve is supposed to be a cold cruel place. FInally after all these years the cold and cruel has returned and I don't mind telling you that under the current conditions I am doing quite well.

If you want a risk free, cost free, thought free gaming experience there are plenty of mmos out there to accommodate you.

The bitter truth is that I dont think Eve 2.0 has the fundamentals to stay like this. Most of the proper pricing is due to manipulation magic. Prices will break in a game of chicken once the first traders flinches and races to cash out profits. Almost none of it has to do with a certian group of pilots as they flap around in a comic attempt the seem relevent. My advice to you ---stop whining, savvy the risk, and get as many tulips through the market as you can while the sucker money is fresh

or

you can buy another plex.

h-
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#39 - 2012-05-14 06:56:01 UTC
Ranting, thread locked.

CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire
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