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Vince Stewart
Couger Habitat
#1 - 2012-05-13 19:00:41 UTC
what is the best way to fit an orca?
The Atomium
Global Song Setup
#2 - 2012-05-13 19:05:23 UTC
Depends on what you want to do with it.
But if you don't fit a DC2 on it, people will call you names.

aka Luba Cibre
Vince Stewart
Couger Habitat
#3 - 2012-05-13 20:15:20 UTC
mining support is mainly what I want to use it for
Ferlia arian
Irresponsible Productions Inc.
#4 - 2012-05-13 20:33:20 UTC
[Orca, Orca]

Prototype Cloaking Device I
Core Probe Launcher I
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization I

EM Ward Field II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I

Reinforced Bulkheads II
Damage Control II

3x Large Ancillary Current Router I


can boost, and is in warp in 10 secs with 1 cycle of the mwd.
Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-05-13 20:54:08 UTC
LOL bad fits

if mining support in high sec mine is

high
tractor beam
salvager
foreman laser optimisation

mid
shield booster
roid scanner
2 * hardners

low
cargo expanders
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#6 - 2012-05-13 21:23:31 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
That depends on what you want to use it for...


[Orca, Highsec Hauler]
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

With the MWD-Align trick, you can warp in less than 10 seconds after each gate. That saves a lot of time. And you have 236,702 EHP. Obviously, you could also put gang links in the high slots,but I don't bother.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Jhoria Englside
Brojob
#7 - 2012-05-13 22:49:12 UTC
Lol dar doesnt know how to fit an orca. You want dc2 and mwd. Anything else Is fit to taste. Go ahead, say people won't suicide you for lols and I'll show you people that will.
Coolsmoke
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-13 23:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Coolsmoke
FT Diomedes wrote:
That depends on what you want to use it for...


[Orca, Highsec Hauler]
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

With the MWD-Align trick, you can warp in less than 10 seconds after each gate. That saves a lot of time. And you have 236,702 EHP. Obviously, you could also put gang links in the high slots,but I don't bother.


DCU II and Reinforced Bulkheads II in the lows gives you 216k EHP. I fail to see why you should want to use another 6 slots to add just 10% more buffer.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#9 - 2012-05-14 02:13:11 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
The only essential mods on my fit are:

1. The DCU II,
2. The 100mn MWD, and
3. A fitting mod to make the MWD fit.

It's really just personal preference which fitting mod you choose to make it work. I could have used an ACR for this. Or used an RCU II and maybe squeezed on another LSE. Either way, it doesn't really matter that much.

What are you going to fit in the other slots to make the ship better?

I'm not fitting cargo rigs because I'm not carrying anything except maybe T1 ammo in my cargo hold (and they lower the EHP).

There is no point fitting it for more agility because you are using the MWD to warp more quickly anyway.

So, you might as well gain another 20k EHP for the 10 seconds or so that you are aligning to warp.

Or, you could use this fit, which is even better in many ways. 259k EHP is nothing to sneeze at. It also has fairly decent resistances across the board.


[Orca, Highsec Hauler copy 1]
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Damage Control II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Immortis Vexx
Onyx Moon Industries
#10 - 2012-05-14 16:49:35 UTC
Bah, If you are flying in highsec you do need some tank but I think that 200k ehp is a biit of an overkill.

[Orca, Shield]

Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization II
Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement II
Small Tractor Beam I

2x Large Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

2x Expanded Cargohold II

2x Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

this fit has 106k ehp with just the shield slots used and gives you full functionality of the orca. I've had goons/test throw ships at this in highsec and fail to dent it. If you are using an orca in lowsec alone and get caught with it, you will lose it; tank or no tank. Tanking an orca for lowsec means you either a) dont get caught or b) have a great supporting fleet. Further, if you want an extreme tanking fit you can do so but you lose a lot of the functionality. The only fit that I kind of like is the MWD fit for faster navigation around but if I'm not going far, this will suffice for most operations.

Vexx

PS: I don't want to hear about smart bombing battleships either.. With this setup it would take 44 volleys of smartbombs to take this orca (roughly).

PSS: And for god's sake turn on your damned invul shields :)
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-05-14 16:57:18 UTC
Immortis Vexx wrote:
Bah, If you are flying in highsec you do need some tank but I think that 200k ehp is a biit of an overkill.

this. what could you possibly have in your cargo that justifies a gank with 20 tornados? and even if, when are there ever 20 tornados at s hisec gate, except when it's burn jita?

I should buy an Ishtar.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-14 17:06:32 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Immortis Vexx wrote:
Bah, If you are flying in highsec you do need some tank but I think that 200k ehp is a biit of an overkill.

this. what could you possibly have in your cargo that justifies a gank with 20 tornados? and even if, when are there ever 20 tornados at s hisec gate, except when it's burn jita?

You don't understand. The DC gives you 200k ehp to make you uninteresting to tank. A shield tank can get ganked by 10 nado's or less.
You should ask yourself the question what one can possibly have in your cargo that justifies a gank with 8 nado's. If there is something, you'll need the DC.
Or alternativel: is that second expanded cargohold worth the risk of getting ganked?
Immortis Vexx
Onyx Moon Industries
#13 - 2012-05-14 19:31:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Immortis Vexx
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Immortis Vexx wrote:
Bah, If you are flying in highsec you do need some tank but I think that 200k ehp is a biit of an overkill.

this. what could you possibly have in your cargo that justifies a gank with 20 tornados? and even if, when are there ever 20 tornados at s hisec gate, except when it's burn jita?

You don't understand. The DC gives you 200k ehp to make you uninteresting to tank. A shield tank can get ganked by 10 nado's or less.
You should ask yourself the question what one can possibly have in your cargo that justifies a gank with 8 nado's. If there is something, you'll need the DC.
Or alternativel: is that second expanded cargohold worth the risk of getting ganked?



Hehe I totally agree with you. However, if someone wants to spend 700m just on ship hulls to take 1 Orca, please, be my guest. Lol I'd actually be honored that someone would take such an interest in hoping to get something I might have in the cargo.

The fit is what I would call a "balanced" fit. It's made for max efficiency with a decent tankability. Sure, I can sacrifice a bit o hauling to go extreme tank but why? Mining is all about numbers, the extra 17,000m3 space really adds up when you consider that I will do several trips from belt to station. 4 x 17,000 = 68,000m3 is no small amt of extra time I spend providing bonuses. Plus, gankers don't go after orcas, they target the mining boats themselves. In all the time that I've been mining, my orca has only been targeted once and they didn't even come close to puncturing my shields. I've LOST orcas but thats a result of me doing something dumb (which happens frequently these days Roll)

Vexx

EDIT: If I am hauling something truly high value I probably wouldn't do it in an Orca unless I had to. If I were though, you better believe it would be tanked to go to hell and back.
GreenSeed
#14 - 2012-05-14 23:30:17 UTC
oh lol... someone run a locator on that dude that posted that fit with 2 expanders on the lows and kill him for fun and tears please.


im sure you can get 20 ppl with gankstroyers in less than 30 minutes.

specially with hulkgeddon on.


and no you dont need tornados to down a 0 (ZERO) transversal orca sitting on a belt...

because its HUGE and almost 50% of the shots on it will be wrecking (crits)

http://youtu.be/CZwViMAXxR4
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-05-14 23:45:40 UTC
Ferlia arian wrote:
[Orca, Orca]

Prototype Cloaking Device I
Core Probe Launcher I
Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization I

EM Ward Field II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I

Reinforced Bulkheads II
Damage Control II

3x Large Ancillary Current Router I


can boost, and is in warp in 10 secs with 1 cycle of the mwd.


WTF did you do to that Orca?!?!?!! Just self-destruct it, NAO!