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Looks like we're winning the war: Highsec mining drops by HALF!
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Musashi IV
Off-World Mining
#101 - 2012-05-12 21:22:54 UTC
After reading your post I think your IQ dropped by half to a -5.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#102 - 2012-05-12 21:39:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Pok Nibin wrote:
You're winning a "war" against mining ships? Man. I'll notify Sun Tzu. I'm sure he'll be impressed. A war against mining ships! I wonder how you'd do against garbage trucks! (I shudder to think!)

Sun Tzu acutally preached a concept concerning this.

However killing your own farms is not the best way to win a war.

As for the doubeling of the paycheck the last of the mineral stock market exchange supply just ran dry so its about to get halved. Now I have to buy expensive bread to make even more expensive sandwitches and the price competition up the chain is alot feircer than I remembered.

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Romla Yatolila
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-05-12 21:47:28 UTC
I too wish to share in the dream of some awesome spaceship PvP in low/null-sec...
Too bad i'll have to do more high-sec carebareing to afford the inflated ship prices to get me going.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#104 - 2012-05-12 23:26:33 UTC
Tobias Sjodin wrote:
Yes, and another account is free of charge, right? Not to mention the time inefficiency and increased risk factor of using multiple accounts.


Bring on the irrelevant arguments! That's right folks, step this way and we'll start a discussion about how ganking hulks is an income generation mechanism measured in ISK/hr! No longer is it sufficient to not go backwards when ganking hulks, no siree! Now the argument has changed to "ganking hulks to collect the Goonswarm bounty isn't as profitable as mining!"

Step right up, see who can reduce the argument to the most absurd statements!

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Romandra
These are not the droids you're looking for
#105 - 2012-05-13 01:05:15 UTC
A lot of people in this thread seem to entirely miss the point. I cannot be :effort: enough to read the entire thread, but just in case it hasn't been made clear to you yet, I will boil down the op post to just two words to help explain it:


James 315 wrote:
highsec miners



There you go.
Ammatar IV
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#106 - 2012-05-13 01:30:17 UTC
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:
Ocih wrote:
[quote=Karn Dulake]
Gratz on winning the "war". of course now all you null, whine bears can do what you say you hate. Mine your own ******* minerals. Have fun.

I'd just like to add that if a large, null-sec alliance REALLY needed minerals, and it was impossible to procure them through normal means, its leadership would probably coordinate with allies, schedule a fleet, send some pings, and lo and behold, next thing you know there would be a multifaceted operation with 100 exhumers, 30 logistics, 15 orcas, 10 rorquals and a couple titans to bridge everyone around, plus 200 armor hacs w/ support on patrol spewing bubbles everywhere to protect the fleet, plus 25 carriers and 15 supercarriers on standby within jump range, a wing of stealth bombers patrolling the region, and rifterswarms guarding all the gates. And the entire constellation would probably be clear of ore within a few hours.

Perhaps people should make some friends, come to nullsec and start playing the real game.



Perhaps nullsec should become even remotely accessible? Not this crap we have now, either you have to be a member of a trashy forum for 3 months or have 50 million SP...

If you guys want people to come out, you sure don't act like it.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#107 - 2012-05-13 01:33:06 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something.

Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills...

No one left? I really doubt the sixty bucks a month CCP gets from me will be going away any time soon. On top of that, I somehow doubt that the loss of a few thousand revolving-door players is going to affect the long-term bottom line, especially if it means CCP will no longer be obligated to continue dumbing down the game. One day, they might even be able to call it a "cold, harsh universe" again.

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Yay, sure the 350 people CCP has hired since then will think exaclty the same about CCP losing the income that justifies their paychecks...

Have you considered that it might be better for a few people to lose their jobs, than it is for the whole company to go under once the carebears have had their way with the game, and left it in a crying, sopping mess to move on to another theme park?

Pok Nibin wrote:
You're winning a "war" against mining ships? Man. I'll notify Sun Tzu. I'm sure he'll be impressed. A war against mining ships! I wonder how you'd do against garbage trucks! (I shudder to think!)

Have you actually ever read the book?

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#108 - 2012-05-13 01:33:54 UTC
Gankers are like that cancer cure that hasn't been invented in RL yet.
Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#109 - 2012-05-13 01:37:37 UTC
Well this is one way to force a profession revamp from CCP.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#110 - 2012-05-13 01:42:20 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Tobias Sjodin wrote:
Yes, and another account is free of charge, right? Not to mention the time inefficiency and increased risk factor of using multiple accounts.


Bring on the irrelevant arguments! That's right folks, step this way and we'll start a discussion about how ganking hulks is an income generation mechanism measured in ISK/hr! No longer is it sufficient to not go backwards when ganking hulks, no siree! Now the argument has changed to "ganking hulks to collect the Goonswarm bounty isn't as profitable as mining!"

Step right up, see who can reduce the argument to the most absurd statements!

Ganker: Hi, I'm a ganker. To tell you the truth, we don't gank for the money. Sure, bounties and loot pay for some of the cost, but even without those benefits, we would continue to do it. We certainly didn't stop when CONCORD insurance was removed. When we gank, we try to make the best possible use of resources, including people, time, ISK, and sec status. We also use this type of setup for this type of outcome, and that type of setup for that type of outcome, et cetera.

You: Shut up, you're wrong. Yes, you do gank for money, so don't even try to deny it, lying scumbag. Also, I don't gank Hulks but I know more about ganking because you're dumb and stupid and you're doing it wrong, noob.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Eve Orwell
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-05-13 02:46:57 UTC
Musashi IV wrote:
After reading your post I think your IQ dropped by half to a -5.


how does that even work. The only way it could have been halved and ended at -5 is if it went UP from -10.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#112 - 2012-05-13 02:52:12 UTC
When you kill eve and there is no targets left, don't go crying to CCP.

..
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#113 - 2012-05-13 02:54:23 UTC
Eve Orwell wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
After reading your post I think your IQ dropped by half to a -5.


how does that even work. The only way it could have been halved and ended at -5 is if it went UP from -10.


He didn't say it was halved he said half, like half of a maximum IQ and dropped to -5.

LOL got to love a goon trying to be inteligent..

..
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#114 - 2012-05-13 03:03:19 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
When you kill eve and there is no targets left, don't go crying to CCP.


if and when an alliance kills eve, they will have won eve

but nobody is trying to kill eve, sometimes needed medicine can be an unpleasant experience
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2012-05-13 03:10:54 UTC
Ammatar IV wrote:
Perhaps nullsec should become even remotely accessible? Not this crap we have now, either you have to be a member of a trashy forum for 3 months or have 50 million SP...

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Eve Orwell
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2012-05-13 03:37:31 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Eve Orwell wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
After reading your post I think your IQ dropped by half to a -5.


how does that even work. The only way it could have been halved and ended at -5 is if it went UP from -10.


He didn't say it was halved he said half, like half of a maximum IQ and dropped to -5.

LOL got to love a goon trying to be inteligent..


yeah, that makes even less sense than the original statement
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#117 - 2012-05-13 04:08:59 UTC
Eve Orwell wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Eve Orwell wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
After reading your post I think your IQ dropped by half to a -5.


how does that even work. The only way it could have been halved and ended at -5 is if it went UP from -10.


He didn't say it was halved he said half, like half of a maximum IQ and dropped to -5.

LOL got to love a goon trying to be inteligent..


yeah, that makes even less sense than the original statement


Only to a goon :)

..
Stirko Hek
New Home Industries
#118 - 2012-05-13 04:43:26 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Eve Orwell wrote:
Musashi IV wrote:
After reading your post I think your IQ dropped by half to a -5.


how does that even work. The only way it could have been halved and ended at -5 is if it went UP from -10.


He didn't say it was halved he said half, like half of a maximum IQ and dropped to -5.

LOL got to love a goon trying to be inteligent..


What exactly is "half of a maximum IQ"?

It also might help if you could spell intelligent, but I dare say you probably share the vacant stare of your avatar and insinuate that you more than likely are vacant in other departments as well.
Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2012-05-13 04:46:30 UTC
Ammatar IV wrote:
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:

Perhaps people should make some friends, come to nullsec and start playing the real game.

Perhaps nullsec should become even remotely accessible? Not this crap we have now, either you have to be a member of a trashy forum for 3 months or have 50 million SP...

If you guys want people to come out, you sure don't act like it.

My point was that nullsec is awesome.

There are many nullsec corps which have no skillpoint or forums requirements. My corp, for example. Of course, considering the substantial assets nullsec alliances routinely sling around, you may find the application process somewhat more rigorous compared to most afk/no teamwork/don't really do anything hisec corps. Feel free to join our public channel if genuinely interested.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#120 - 2012-05-13 07:44:42 UTC
I'd like to try some Nullsec Cola. I keep hearing it's awesome.

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