EVE General Discussion

wow your corp sounds sucky

So you are saying that this definition is not wrong because ... it is not wrong?

Well there's almost certainly quite a few 30somethings in mine. We had a lively discussion on the various cartoon films our kids liked to watch to keep em entertained last night.
Then there was that guy who thought Blackhat GMs working for Goonswarm were purposefully disconnecting him when he was mining, that was fun.

Solution to the problem is quite simple actually, the only problem is to add rules to prevent abusing this solution.

The team making the wardec pays X ammount of isk for the wardec, y% stay with concord and the rest goes to whoever wins the war or even better, proportionally distributed to both parties depending on ammount of damages caused (maybe median ISK destroyed at current market value).

This way, both are encouraged to fight, including newbie corps with less skill points because they'll have a chance at getting the pot playing smart.

For example, corp A wardecs corp B, A pays 50mil isk to make the wardec, 5% is Concord tax, the pool is 45mil.
If Corp B wants to end the war prematurely, they have to pay 45mil, Corp A receives 90mil.
If they fight, the war lasts 7 days, at the end of this 7 days damages are split, let's say Corp A did 50mil isk in damage to Corp B, and Corp B did 500mil in damages to Corp A, So, Corp A did 10% of the damage Corp B did, they get 4.5mil, and Corp B the rest, if one of them has no losses, it receives the full amount, if the damage is the same, 50/50 it's split and so on.

Normal rules apply to renewing wardecs and the cycle repeats (when renewing the earnings aren't split, only the pool money is increased with the renewal) the splitting of the pool is don't only when the war ends. Also the new rules about wardecs on SiSi are good, relative to money spent of making a wardec etc.

This would need of course ways of preventing abuse and/or isk laundry (which happens alot on eve with other things like bounties on players)

Best regards.

First off, thank you for the clear and well written post. It actually wasn't TL:DR because it was presented so well.

Just wanting to say, that ccp has acknowledged this issue. With the coming expansion (I am sure this has been said) that ccp is changing costs and other mechanics to it. Most notably, the ability to hire mercenaries and the increased cost of said. Hopefully what we will see is that pvp corps will form up for the lols of fighting the other pvp corps. there might be protection rackets and other things, but until I get to see how it works exactly, I cannot comment.

Main point is that with Inferno, there are changes, and depending on corp size, vs a two man dec, use just straight up all ewar in cheap ships. Talking basic imicus with ecm drones, griffins, blackbirds, etc. Just load them up with ecm from cheap ships so they cannot do heck all. The counter is not trying to kill, fight back or use combat, just mess up their ships so they cannot do anything. Easy on the pocketbook, and typically they drop the war dec if you are civil, etc. Have ended war decs the day they had started using this tactic. They look for grief or good fight. Counter them well, and they will tip hat, and be off to next target.

It also provides a perverse incentive for corporations to stay weak and unable to defend themselves.

The answer isn't to protect horrible corps; it's to encourage people to form or join corps that are properly run.

Again, this totally wrong-headed idea that starting a corp should be something new players routinely do. New players should generally be joining established, well-run corps to get an idea of how things work and what best practice is. Once they're experienced players, then they should be considering starting their own corps.

Attempts to use forced and abitrary mechanics to square the circle of protecting small, new-player corps from their own weakness and ignorance miss the point, and only encourage that weakness and ignorance.

Since EvE is a sandbox, shouldn't everyone be able to build their own sandcastle no matter their skill level or time spent on the beach? Everyone knows the sensible option is to join an established corp.

Not everyone gets along with everyone else when shut in the same room is basically what I'm getting at, a well run corp is useless to a newer player if theres a personality clash or other events. May as well let the new player who wants to be a CEO do it his way and find out for himself if he has the ability.

Would also like to add that trying to run even a small Indy operation from a NPC corp with one hanger sounds like a great big headache. Maybe the unified inventory will make a difference in that regard, guess we will find out soon...