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Is it time to let the "big boys" in Hi-Sec?

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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#1 - 2012-05-11 08:05:53 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
No, not those "big boys", I mean the big capitals.

When I was I wee small pilot keeping my sweaty hand very much on the stick I started venturing around Low and Null.

I will never forget the first time I was part of a fight where we hot dropped in a crap load of caps. The sight was amazing as the cyno lit and a mess of big ass caps appeared to beat fourteen types of crap out of some carrier.

How good would that be for Hi Sec folks to see to encourage them to Null?

- No elaborate Hi-Sec cap rules for CCP to manage.
- Hard to think they would ever be used to gank.
- Push a ton of that easy Hi Sec POS action to Low and Null.
- Opens up classes of ships with über cargo holds for massive care bear action.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-11 08:11:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
You can't light cynos in highsec for good reasons and capitals can't use gates, so you aren't going to get capitals in highsec. Just accept, that different areas of space are governed by different rules and many people actually prefer things that way. If you want to see caps, you GTFO of highsec.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#3 - 2012-05-11 08:12:26 UTC
The Veldspar miners could use Rorqurals ^___^ nothing like more trit.

Oh and jump freighters.

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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-05-11 08:16:25 UTC
They should allow dreads into high sec. But carriers supper caps and titans have no right to high sec. If they were allowed in there might aswell be no high sec

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Aron Croup
Incompatible Protocol
#5 - 2012-05-11 08:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Aron Croup
On one hand, capital blobs are one of the most dull aspects of null-sec PVP and I would hate to see that spill into high-sec. Imagine corporations like RvB and EVE uni being war-decced by alliances with hundreds of capitals... nothing good will come of that.

On the other hand, there are nearly no moons left in central high-sec that haven't been claimed by some random tower. Would be nice if that got stirred up a little.

On the whole, I think I'm against you idea though. I like that EVE is not uniformly the same all over, and no cyno's in high-sec is one of the things that makes high-sec more interesting, and it also makes owning a capital ship more interesting, as you have to at least go into low-sec if you want to fly one.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-11 08:51:52 UTC
I would prefer capitals severely limited in low sec; super capitals completely prohibited, so no, not supporting this.

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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#7 - 2012-05-11 09:08:13 UTC
Letting Dreads into highsec to shoot at POS would be fun.

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Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-05-11 09:13:34 UTC
i dont like the idea of carriers on every lvl4 mission...

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Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-11 11:34:05 UTC
To be honest this (Hisec POS bashing) would be better solved with a t2 version of the tier 3 battleship retrofitted to carry XL guns. Give it no drone bay and something of a tracking penalty/dps buff to be applied also. This will render it useless against smaller or equal sized ships. I think should have something like 40% a sieged dreads dps.

Of course that's only a very rough outline to my thoughts. As for caps in general in hisec. No. Nullsec needs more reasons to go there not less.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#10 - 2012-05-11 11:50:32 UTC
I would love to see the forums when Goons use a cap and super fleet in Jita.. Yeah sure allow it.

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Marcus Harikari
#11 - 2012-05-11 11:55:55 UTC
Also, stations in high-sec should be able to be destroyed. Then goons could actually take down jita 4-4. It would be epic.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-05-11 12:21:51 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
Also, stations in high-sec should be able to be destroyed. Then goons could actually take down jita 4-4. It would be epic.


This needs to happen.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-05-11 13:21:24 UTC
There is a good reason that capitals were removed from High Sec. I remember those days...it was fun but it is also in the past. I think if capitals are allowed back into High Sec along with cyno's there would have to be some pretty heavy restrictions and CONCORD would have to be heavily buffed.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-05-11 13:44:43 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
They should allow dreads into high sec. But carriers supper caps and titans have no right to high sec. If they were allowed in there might aswell be no high sec


I don't agree with OP and not with you neither.

My opinion is that high sec should be exacly like low/null, completely warfare and caps (carriers/dreads) supers/titans + bubbles not aloud.

This would make it far more interesting to see how frontiers expand or retract between factions. Would also throat dig a lot of grieffers that would leave the game rather than play it. No loss overall and a better game for everyone.
Botleten
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-05-11 14:17:44 UTC
Subcaps can take care of POS and there isnt anything bigger that needs to be shot, so there's no need for caps in hisec. Lettings capitals in empire would just lead to masses of carrier miner bots who are now immune to ganking
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-05-11 15:40:37 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Marcus Harikari wrote:
Also, stations in high-sec should be able to be destroyed. Then goons could actually take down jita 4-4. It would be epic.


This needs to happen.


Then Jita would burn for real and I would be terribly happy...an event that would finally deliver!
"If."
zama118
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-05-11 15:52:56 UTC
caps in high sec will never happen for one simple reason.
caps need to be able to be killed, a smart player in low or null sec can keep his cap safe, a stupid player will lose it. in high sec stupid players will never lose caps, caps need to die.

(add in to that bucket the fact that they will be abused in high sec some way then its defo never going to happen)
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-05-11 17:09:49 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
No, not those "big boys", I mean the big capitals.

When I was I wee small pilot keeping my sweaty hand very much on the stick I started venturing around Low and Null.

I will never forget the first time I was part of a fight where we hot dropped in a crap load of caps. The sight was amazing as the cyno lit and a mess of big ass caps appeared to beat fourteen types of crap out of some carrier.

How good would that be for Hi Sec folks to see to encourage them to Null?

- No elaborate Hi-Sec cap rules for CCP to manage.
- Hard to think they would ever be used to gank.
- Push a ton of that easy Hi Sec POS action to Low and Null.
- Opens up classes of ships with über cargo holds for massive care bear action.

Personal attacks and foul language are against the forum rules. Avoid please. - Guard


Cause broken blob mechanics should break high sec to.
Reicheck
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-05-11 18:06:15 UTC
As much as I want to mess with a cap, and eventually will... not in hisec. Abuse would be prolific.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#20 - 2012-05-11 20:57:40 UTC
Yeah thatd be amazing for the MASSIVE server destroying battle that would ensue. All the 0.0 alliance allying together caps jumping into high sec to gank EN MASSE ALL the miners at the same time, watching CONCORD try to kill titans and supercaps and the navy getting involved. It would all go down in beautiful firey destruction


until the server crashed

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