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Vince Snetterton
#1 - 2012-05-11 15:01:43 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
I realize the following concept will be totally trashed and co-opted by the null sec propaganda team, but it would actually give some measure to the impact of the decimation of high sec modifications.

I would like to suggest that if you are dropping subscriptions, you simply add a like to this post every time your account finally lapses. Don't hit the like button when you plan on lapsing an account, but when payments actually stop.

I have no wish for epeen and don't give a damn about my like total, and quite frankly would prefer using another mechanism to count dropped subscriptions, but at the moment, I can't think of one.

If someone has one, I am all ears.

I am sitting at 180 likes now.

It would be most interesting to see what the number sits at 3 months from now.
Given that such a small percentage of high sec players actually read the forums, the numbers would be way, way off, but to be honest, I can't think of another way to measure.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#2 - 2012-05-11 15:05:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nirnias Stirrum
Yes and please like my comment as a back up to his comment, i also do not care how many likes i get!

In all seriousness though, their are graphs for this, just go read the server status graphs and you will see the play count rise or drop.

Also it would be hilarious if my post got more likes than the OP P
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-05-11 15:09:14 UTC
yes this will be in no way spoofed at all

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Vince Snetterton
#4 - 2012-05-11 15:14:30 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
yes this will be in no way spoofed at all


Yeah, hence my statement about you guys co-opting it.

I have no illusions that if goons /CSM/ Soundwave, and the rest of you asshats consider this a real annoyance to your plans, you will find a way to trash any information-gathering.

It is always critical to keep the masses uninformed / misinformed when you are screwing them.
Gerald Taric
NEO DYNAMICS
#5 - 2012-05-11 15:27:56 UTC
i'm trying to write a serious reply:

I predict, that this won't result in any meaningfull numbers.


  1. You could get likes because of any other (good) comment in any other thread. Therefore only the "likes" on your first Post here counts.
  2. You need to have an other number to compare with, let's say: "(re)opened Accounts"
  3. Only a fraction of all EVE players are active on this forum, therefore you'll miss some of those, wo would count in.
  4. Since you don't ask for the reasons of an account shutdown, it could be for any reason: No money left for gaming, no time for gaming, computer defective, lost interest in EVE, rage quitting (and reopened 5 weeks later maybe), ...


Therefore i doubt, that this experiement will gernerate anything meaningfulll.

IMHO the best way to track this (for not-CCP-people) might be http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Maybe there might be some other informational sources, but i'm not aware of these.
Castor II
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-05-11 15:34:15 UTC
So why are we dropping subs this time? Kinda hard to keep track with all the npc corp doomsayers Lol
Vince Snetterton
#7 - 2012-05-11 15:36:18 UTC
Gerald Taric wrote:
i'm trying to write a serious reply:

I predict, that this won't result in any meaningfull numbers.


  1. You could get likes because of any other (good) comment in any other thread. Therefore only the "likes" on your first Post here counts.
  2. You need to have an other number to compare with, let's say: "(re)opened Accounts"
  3. Only a fraction of all EVE players are active on this forum, therefore you'll miss some of those, wo would count in.
  4. Since you don't ask for the reasons of an account shutdown, it could be for any reason: No money left for gaming, no time for gaming, computer defective, lost interest in EVE, rage quitting (and reopened 5 weeks later maybe), ...


Therefore i doubt, that this experiement will gernerate anything meaningfulll.

IMHO the best way to track this (for not-CCP-people) might be http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Maybe there might be some other informational sources, but i'm not aware of these.


That is a very interesting site you posted there. I was not aware of it.
I agree that my concept is far from perfect, and you make excellent points.

But at least what I am trying is something tangible.
It might show some of the rage and hopelessness some feel about what is happening.
Enuen Ravenseye
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-05-11 15:42:35 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
the decimation of high sec


You're assuming - incorrectly - that high sec is being decimated. The only ones being decimated at the moment are the botters and RMTers who are being mass banned. And that's not decimation, that's a necessary cleansing. And a wonderful thing.

In summation, bye. No likes for you.

P.S. I just ADDED another account. How does that get counted in your wonderful "like" system?
zama118
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-11 15:47:07 UTC
crap i liked it
and i just re-sub my 2 accounts for a year

looks like your going to have to start the thread again to get accurate results
(i see a problem here)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#10 - 2012-05-11 15:56:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Gerald Taric wrote:
i'm trying to write a serious reply:

I predict, that this won't result in any meaningfull numbers.


  1. You could get likes because of any other (good) comment in any other thread. Therefore only the "likes" on your first Post here counts.
  2. You need to have an other number to compare with, let's say: "(re)opened Accounts"
  3. Only a fraction of all EVE players are active on this forum, therefore you'll miss some of those, wo would count in.
  4. Since you don't ask for the reasons of an account shutdown, it could be for any reason: No money left for gaming, no time for gaming, computer defective, lost interest in EVE, rage quitting (and reopened 5 weeks later maybe), ...


Therefore i doubt, that this experiement will gernerate anything meaningfulll.

IMHO the best way to track this (for not-CCP-people) might be http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Maybe there might be some other informational sources, but i'm not aware of these.


That is a very interesting site you posted there. I was not aware of it.
I agree that my concept is far from perfect, and you make excellent points.

But at least what I am trying is something tangible.
It might show some of the rage and hopelessness some feel about what is happening.


Actually, the important metric is active subscriber count, which isn't really shown by looking at the average number of players logging in at any one time.

That information is released fairly regularly though.

EDIT: Rage and hopelessness? REALLY? Big smileBig smileBig smile

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Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-11 16:04:06 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Gerald Taric wrote:
i'm trying to write a serious reply:

I predict, that this won't result in any meaningfull numbers.


  1. You could get likes because of any other (good) comment in any other thread. Therefore only the "likes" on your first Post here counts.
  2. You need to have an other number to compare with, let's say: "(re)opened Accounts"
  3. Only a fraction of all EVE players are active on this forum, therefore you'll miss some of those, wo would count in.
  4. Since you don't ask for the reasons of an account shutdown, it could be for any reason: No money left for gaming, no time for gaming, computer defective, lost interest in EVE, rage quitting (and reopened 5 weeks later maybe), ...


Therefore i doubt, that this experiement will gernerate anything meaningfulll.

IMHO the best way to track this (for not-CCP-people) might be http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Maybe there might be some other informational sources, but i'm not aware of these.


That is a very interesting site you posted there. I was not aware of it.
I agree that my concept is far from perfect, and you make excellent points.

But at least what I am trying is something tangible.
It might show some of the rage and hopelessness some feel about what is happening.


What exactly is happening? Eve is by far the best mmo available a nd its getting better. Yes goons are horrible. They are suppose to be. Laugh at them, they are ridiculous. Dont cry and quit about it. Burn jita? Horrendous fail. What is you problem?

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#12 - 2012-05-11 16:33:30 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
This is a game where 'Burn Jita' or 'Hulkaggedon' events that are player driven are welcome and as much a part of Eve as anything else. In fact Eve is Eve because of events like this.

I for one will keep my two accounts subbed.




Edit: FYI, I'm a hi-sec resident.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#13 - 2012-05-11 16:39:27 UTC
This is probably the best time ever to be a high sec resident

PUG Co-op PvE in total safety

Suicide ganking doesn't pay insurance out.

Wardec costs are rising so you could shelter up in bigger alliances and bear all day. CCP doesn't really care if you exploit to evade wars either, so whatever new ways come out to dodge wars will just get ignored.
Goonspiracy
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-05-11 17:23:53 UTC
Two people retract your likes. I've activated two more accounts since this happened because I needed more accounts to gank with.
Lexmana
#15 - 2012-05-11 17:28:49 UTC
Goonspiracy wrote:
Two people retract your likes. I've activated two more accounts since this happened because I needed more accounts to gank with.

But forum posters is such a small percentage of players.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-05-11 17:35:53 UTC
Anyone who decides to stay should like this post.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Mathias Hex
#17 - 2012-05-12 01:59:13 UTC
Good idea OP, how bout we keep track of how many accounts are staying active also.

If you plan to keep playing EVE please like my post, I am not just trying to get likes either Big smile

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2012-05-12 04:39:53 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
This is probably the best time ever to be a high sec resident

PUG Co-op PvE in total safety

Suicide ganking doesn't pay insurance out.

Wardec costs are rising so you could shelter up in bigger alliances and bear all day. CCP doesn't really care if you exploit to evade wars either, so whatever new ways come out to dodge wars will just get ignored.

I'm actually eagerly awaiting to see what the "next decshield" methods will be, other than just mega corps and NPC corps, of course.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-05-12 04:49:52 UTC
I created my second account just before Crucible was released. I created my third account just before Inferno was released. Why would anybody quit this game, now that CCP seems to be back on track?