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Changes to refining to promote refining in low sec and 0.0
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Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-10 19:54:06 UTC
Right now unlike with missions where in lower sec you get better rewards refining can actually be worse. Finding some one with near perfect refines in high sec isn't that hard you have plenty of 50% stations. While refining outposts in 0.0 are like 35%.

Its like if you want to make mining things more attractive in low sec make the Refineries better.

You get over 100% refine because of black magic and shady dealings the low sec stations and 0.0 stations and outpost perform.

Then in 0.0 where stations and refining outpost instead of being crappier than a lot of high sec actually refine better.

Have them refine like over 100% so if you are in -1.0 sec refinery station you can get like 125+% refine from you ores or other things because of illegal tech and no regulations on the refining or what eve fluff you need. Key thing is one it makes production better in 0.0.

THUS people will mine/move ore to low/0.0 to refine because they get added value over refining in high sec.

CCP WOULD have to make it so you only got the BONUS super refine minerals from ORE OR COMPRESSED ORE OR ICE only and not from reprocessing ships and mods and ammo. It would also help if they improved the Roq's compression of ores to a even higher amount.
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-10 21:16:13 UTC
Except its probably intentional, to force you to schlep to highsec to refine for max amount then schlep back to nullsec. Then again, you can also think that in a Sov-Fortress of Solitude that you protect also comes with that 35% base is the oppertunity cost to not schlep to highsec.

So...yeah its balanced in some wierd viking way that only CCP understands.
Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-05-10 21:57:03 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Except its probably intentional, to force you to schlep to highsec to refine for max amount then schlep back to nullsec. Then again, you can also think that in a Sov-Fortress of Solitude that you protect also comes with that 35% base is the oppertunity cost to not schlep to highsec.

So...yeah its balanced in some wierd viking way that only CCP understands.



But CCP has repeatedly said they want low sec to mine and manufacture in the area they play. They have repeatedly nerfed items with high mineral compression so you couldn't move large amounts of minerals easy.

The other thing is most of this would not harm High sec so people shouldn't have anything to get really mad about but instead add value to low sec and other places.

You could have miners who would not transport all their ore to low sec so that a Rorqual could press those things nice and tight and then ship them to 0.0 so they get a bonus % of the high ends when they finally refine it and leave the low ends for sale in the low sec or 0.0 and bring the high ends back up to empire for what they want.
Artyom Hunter
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
#4 - 2012-05-11 15:27:57 UTC
This is a bit off topic, but how far did you try to make your character look abhuman Ms Starfire?
Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-11 16:02:10 UTC
You have to Bend and Snap like in legally blonde.
Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-12 02:51:40 UTC
Key thing seems to be that:
CCP WOULD have to make it so you only got the BONUS super refine minerals from ORE OR COMPRESSED ORE OR ICE only and not from reprocessing ships and mods and ammo. It would also help if they improved the Roq's compression of ores to a even higher amount.
Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-05-13 04:02:10 UTC
You could also make like Sciences offices do science faster or like have higher chance on invention.
Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-13 06:07:17 UTC
they have a lot of good points even if they look like they broke their neck

We are our own worst enemy.
Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-20 04:16:24 UTC
I think the big thing is to not nerf high sec put add value to low and 0.0 so you have advantages for being their.
Lady Starfire
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-27 00:53:40 UTC
You could make researching like mega better in low sec and 0.0 better than from a POS.