Test Server Feedback

Is it me or does that sound like the 1000 dollar jeans speech a certain person made a while back.

Imho the new system is no where near as useable as the current system on TQ, yes it has many features - they just aren't very easy to use. Personally I don't like getting into my car by climbing through the trunk!

this new sysrtem, is badly thought out. its badly implemented and it has reduced functionality.

ive been on sisi and ive tried to do the many tasks i do on tq. each takes longer, each is more anoying and more clicky(like i need more clicky crap) and some of the changes have the feeling of a good idea by people who have never played eve.

i do not understand why you think what you are about to roll out helps the typical eve player, when the bulk of the feed back is negative.

for me i run 6 accounts 3pvp/3industry with 18 trained toons. 13 of them are all industry guys, manufaturing, invention, lab stuffs. you are going to make my eve life a nightmare with this new system. i need multiple windows that are easy to access, easy to switch between and are in different places, not one big pile of crap in one place thats not intuitive.

change is good, when the change brings about a positive. this is not a positive change.

This bears repeating.

This is your warning bell CCP! Heed it!

As i said before: i like the new interface.

It needs tweaking, sure but its an incredible improvement over the old one.

I cant understand all the hate and the reference about incarna.

Sure it's not perfect, sure they MUST work on it quite a bit before deploying it.

However it's a well made improvement over the old system.

Hi all,

Just wanted to chime in that we are listening and reading all your feedback. We already have both an incredible number of defects that we are fixing on a daily basis as well as a list of feature iterations based on the feedback you guys are providing.

Personally having used the new system for a few months I would never go back to the old system. A few things to note;

ALT - C - Inventory
ALT - N - Ships
ALT - G - Items

In addition to this, there is a shortcut to go directly to your Cargohold, this is not assigned to a key by default, but you could set it to ALT - C (ESC - Shortcuts - Window). We discussed setting ALT - C by default to Cargohold, but ultimately it is just a default setting and users can change the key bindings.

On the note of a few of the issues raised here;



I will raise this to the team.



We are already discussing this, though likely not to make it in for Inferno.



There are some tech constraints, but we have also discussed this. I will raise this where appropriate



So I have a philosophical question that I am curious about. Why are so many people intent on interacting with items via the tree view and not via the ships window properly?

We actually implemented double clicking to board ships, so you can open the ships window and board ships by double clicking. This is much faster than dragging them to the station scene?

Specifically on your question though, we are also investigating this, but it is not trivial and also unlikely to make it in for Inferno.



On the backlog, we just need to find the time to do the work, will not be for Inferno, but will be soon after if there is enough demand for it.


Could you clarify this? I don't understand. You want when your fitting screen is open to display how many items you have that can be fitted to your ship? Of a type? Where is this information meant to display, can you not create a specific filter?

We are working on some more advanced filters that could potentially serve this purpose?



Unassembled ships is not a defect. Only container locations are meant to display in the tree view. Refer to my previous point about using the tree view instead of the ship window.

The queries are exclusive, no inclusive. If you have one filter that is Ammunition and a separate one that is Turrets. If you tick them both, the system is looking for something that is BOTH a Turret AND Ammo so it will find nothing. On the other hand you could create a filter

Group is Charge All
Group is Module All

Match
Any (instead of All)

You can drill down further if you like.

The final issue is a defect and has been fixed. We now display the decimal value correctly in all locations.

Finally a big concern that is being raised again and again, is multiple window usage. We are already investigating this and hope that we can fix it in time.

However on a personal note, every time I have to go back from the Unified Inventory to multiple windows, I cringe. We understand the usability concerns raised here, but once people have been given some time to acclimatize themselves, we strongly believe that this will provide the best user experience.

I will talk to CCP Optimal and CCP Arrow tomorrow first thing, since they are both out of office now.

Thank you for the feedback and please keep the feedback coming, we are reading and replying when possible, but we are also working on simply resolving these issues rather than...

Scrolling is bad will there be a way to access the major storage locations with out scrolling

Edit in the inventory window not via short cuts.

you are ignoring the issues and are rolling out this thing regardless.

i fit 100's of ships. i want unpackaged ships in my ship hanger view. not in another view. i want my ship that im in also to be in my ship hanger view, its a ship after all. i want the fitting window to open up the cargo of the ship im in in a seprate window (if i shift clcik it like your making me) when i click it.

you are going to make my life harder with this crap. and tbh i have seriously considered just dumping the accounts that will cause my eve life to become a PITA which is 3 from the 6. all teh ones that will have to put up with this half finished crap you insist on rolling out

This is not about hope really. It's a choice you make knowingly. You can either postpone this feature until it is ready for tranq and put it out in some point patch or you can push it out unfinished and **** loads of people. It is act which you make while being fully aware about the consequences.


Do not be afraid that this would be the case.

through the corp mangment page..lol

They are just promising to polish up the door when most of us would rather not see it at all! ill say it again.. INCARNA!... Now how long untill they realize this and give us our old spinny spinny hangers back, like last time.