EVE General Discussion

The only time you get SP back is when the skill are removed from the game (i.e. learning skills). You don't get refunded SP due to balancing and minor game changes. Contracts are still a viable part of the game, for example the holding corp for my alliance has 100s of ships contracted to the alliance below market value. When contracts get totally taken out of the game, then you will get your SP refunded. You should probably hold your breath.

If CCP were to refund SP for every skill/item they balance every single patch they would have to refund trillions of SP. It's not going to happen, get over it. I know your parents always told you that you were special, but I am here to tell you you're not. The world of Eve does not revolve around you, so don't expect CCP to appease you at the cost of everyone else.

You can't give the kids all they want, they'll want more. They'll want everything for no reason at all.

We always want more and CCP knows this. No need for you to worry about CCP. They call themselves Crowd Control Products and it would be silly if they could not handle it, right?

Back on the topic:

CCP have been changing the markets and who knows what else they have planned for us in the future. Might be that public item exchange contracts will disappear altogether?! Allowing faction, deadspace and officer items to be sold over the regional markets is certainly interesting, but I only see it being useful for faction items and where Militia players cannot enter Caldari space. For faction modules will there be enough volume to keep a few regional markets like Domain, The Forge, Sinq Laison and Heimatar going and because of the Militias. For deadspace and officer modules do I see little hope for them to be sold in any meaningful volumes outside The Forge / Jita. However, I have no doubt that the regional markets will sooner or later make the public item exchange contracts obsolete, simply because of websites like EVE Central and tools like EFT and PYFA, which will be able to show accurate price information thanks to EVE Central.

We now have multiple regional markets plus public item exchange contracts and split markets are a step backwards away from an easy to use market system. I am somewhat certain that CCP will not let this hang in the air forever. Could be it was a decision made purely out of convenience, to choke scams and to see the effect it will have without deciding anything further at this point. They did said they will bring further changes to the market system like higher transaction tax and to make trading skills more useful. I like the OP's demand. She is not against the change, but points out the effect it has on her and offers a possible solution. I am all for a constructive discussion.

CCP should edit Tippia's name to Snippia for obvious reasons

no diff than getting torp lv 5 and torp sp lvl 5 then they nerf the torps :( missles suck over 13 mill sp and worthless... I do lasser now :) not maxed and do more damage they rock

hehe addapted.....

…and in doing so, nothing has been changed about contracts, and nothing is in the books for being changed about them (except maybe make them better and allow for new items to be contracted). So the fundamental question remains: why on earth should the OP get any SP back when nothing has changed about the skills?

Nothing.

Should they ever change the game to such a degree that the skills become useless or vastly different in what they can do, then maybe, but guess what: the last (and only) time that happened, they did give people a refund. What you're asking for already exists. It just isn't applicable in this case because nothing changed that warrants a refund. What the OP is asking for (essentially a SP remap system) will never exist because it fundamentally breaks the entire skill system.

It's not a step backwards. It's not a step at all. It's the exact split we've had for many many years and which has worked admirably for all those year. If anything, it's a step forwards since more items are now available on the bulk market, which is easier to use.

No, you're not. You're for the OP getting his will for no adequate reason — “I want” doesn't qualify.

Greetings capsuleer,

I believe you can. Some of them are on the market currently. An example is a Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier.

And the modules are still being sold through contract as well.

Regards,

Shian Yang

Not empty quoting.

Because the OP sees it as a solution to her problem. A problem you do not have and therefore you claim it does not exist. That is narcissism, abusive and destructive.

So now after 17 pages do you want to know what the problem is?

GTFO.