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How to speed up a maelstrom?
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Mather Odile
The spice MUST flow
#1 - 2012-05-09 13:52:59 UTC
Hey guys,
I currently intend to use te following fitting for L4s. What bothers me is the slow movement speed, with just above 110m/s. What midslot might be dispensable for an AB, if any at all?

[Maelstrom, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Invulnerability Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Explosion Dampening Field II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed

1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L

Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-09 13:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
use 800s instead of arty imo, then you can use tracking enhancers instead of PDUs and scratch the tracking computer for an AB. if you want to stick to arties, i would probably miss the boost amplifier least, provided you can stay at range.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Cap James Tkirk
TEMPLAR.
The Initiative.
#3 - 2012-05-09 14:00:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Cap James Tkirk
drop the arties and go 800mm autos drop the PDS and go tracking in the lows that will allow you to pop frigs in a volley or two,

drop the invul and add another specific hardner the specific hardners use less cap and will provide a better EHP against the specific rat types

drop the LSB for a XLSB you should pulse this mod as u need health

if you want more speed drop the mid tracking enhancer for a AB but with the AUTOS u should be able to hit rats at 60ish km with t1 guns

rigs look fine for cap

just my 2 isks
Mather Odile
The spice MUST flow
#4 - 2012-05-09 14:18:39 UTC
the speed is mostly to travel between gates(world collide ect.), staying at range might take me even further away from them.
The invul is superior to another expl hardener against angels, for which these hardeners were choosen.

the arty fitting has a tracking of 0.017, the 800 ac would have 0.068. The sustained tank would be higher on the arty as well.
Aesheera
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-05-09 15:05:46 UTC
Mather Odile wrote:

the arty fitting has a tracking of 0.017, the 800 ac would have 0.068. The sustained tank would be higher on the arty as well.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with this statement.

You prefer arties because they track less?

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Mather Odile
The spice MUST flow
#6 - 2012-05-09 15:07:42 UTC
that was bad spelling on my side then. It was more a question as to how much worse the artys tracking is, compared to the acs.
Dimitryy
Silent Knights.
LinkNet
#7 - 2012-05-09 15:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Dimitryy
This is how you speed up a Maelstrom.

[Maelstrom, THE SPEED YOU NEED]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L

Large Auxiliary Thrusters I
Large Auxiliary Thrusters I
Large Auxiliary Thrusters I
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#8 - 2012-05-09 15:57:02 UTC
Mather Odile wrote:
The invul is superior to another expl hardener against angels, for which these hardeners were choosen.


While this is true, the Kin hardener is a mistake for Angels. I've played around a lot and found Invul, Exp, Invul to be the best hardeners for Angels.

I'll also echo what others have said, drop the arty for ACs, drop the PDUs for TEs, drop the LSB for an XLSB, and (if you feel you must) drop the SBA (or maybe TE if you want lots of tank) for an AB.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#9 - 2012-05-09 16:07:03 UTC
Change LSB for XLSB, get rid of the boost amp. Fit an aft.

Anyway, the best thing you can do is just set course to the gate as soon as you get into the room while shooting stuff. By the time you have finished you will be near the gate at standard speed.
Orlacc
#10 - 2012-05-09 16:25:35 UTC
For the OP, unfortunately, an effective Mael is a slow Mael. AKA "The Brick."

Keep at it though as it is a very effective PVE BS. And eventually switch to a (very fast) Mach.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Boomhaur
#11 - 2012-05-10 01:10:38 UTC
I would listen to the others and fit it with the AB, I fly a Nighthawk with I consider slow and a AB does wonders in making missions all that much less painful. In fact a AB on any ship makes missions a lot more barable, I just wished i learned that in the begining it would have saved me a lot of time and headaches.

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#12 - 2012-05-10 01:32:09 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
I am very partial to this setup. Yes, it has Tech II rigs on it. Why? I don't know. It would work with T1 CCC rigs. It was on contracts for about 300m so I bought it. I found it very effective in L4 missions. It has enough cap to work for L4 missions. With my skills and implants I get 801 turret DPS. It tanks 682 against Angels. You can also downgrade to T2 Gyrostabilizers if you want to save some more ISK:

[Maelstrom, Maelstrom copy 1]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Explosion Dampening Field II
Invulnerability Field II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Bouncer II x3
Warrior II x5

To me, an Afterburner is absolutely essential for a good L4 mission battleship. You waste so much time if you don't fit one.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-05-10 01:47:30 UTC
My personal favorite Mael fit, cap stable with shield booster or AB running. In most missions you can run both for the entire sites.


[Maelstrom, L4s Mercs]
Power Diagnostic System II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Booster II
Cap Recharger II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-05-10 01:52:18 UTC
Cut off the wingy bits and roll it sideways down a hill?

/ot.
Oraac Ensor
#15 - 2012-05-10 08:56:29 UTC
Stir faster.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-05-10 09:09:10 UTC
Only way to speed up a maelstrom is to bump it.

Even with an AB it doesn't cross 300m/s
Babar Baboli
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-05-10 09:49:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Babar Baboli
[Maelstrom, Arty Mael]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination 100MN Afterburner
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5



This is what I used for L4's. Adjust the hardeners by the mission rats.
It eats everyhing.

I used the domination AB since it was relativly cheap and gives better speed for less cap than AB T2

ninjaedit: this fit crosses 300 m/s without all level 5 skills.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-05-10 10:19:44 UTC
Babar Baboli wrote:
[Maelstrom, Arty Mael]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination 100MN Afterburner
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5



This is what I used for L4's. Adjust the hardeners by the mission rats.
It eats everyhing.

I used the domination AB since it was relativly cheap and gives better speed for less cap than AB T2

ninjaedit: this fit crosses 300 m/s without all level 5 skills.


Also the first decent fit I've seen in this thread.
Malles Istveruckt
Debaser Monde
#19 - 2012-05-10 10:51:34 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Babar Baboli wrote:
[Maelstrom, Arty Mael]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination 100MN Afterburner
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5



This is what I used for L4's. Adjust the hardeners by the mission rats.
It eats everyhing.

I used the domination AB since it was relativly cheap and gives better speed for less cap than AB T2

ninjaedit: this fit crosses 300 m/s without all level 5 skills.


Also the first decent fit I've seen in this thread.


QFT
Tenga Halaris
Galactic Traders Union
#20 - 2012-05-10 11:01:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenga Halaris
[Maelstrom, Active Booster]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L

Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
[empty rig slot]


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

1020 dps including drones
990 burst tank
320 m/s travel speed


Arties:

[Maelstrom, Active Booster]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L

Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
[empty rig slot]


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

860 dps
550 tank omni
o/
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